December 1997 - webpages-l@genealogy.net

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by GUnger＠t-online.de 31 Dec '97

31 Dec '97

Hallo, ich habe gerade die Datei bb-d.html noch einmal auf dem Server abgelegt. War noch ein kleiner Fehler drin. Sie gehört in reg/BRG Guten Rutsch in 1998 an alle von Euch und für 1998 alles Gute, vor allem Gesundheit. von Günther aus Emmerich

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Re: AW: uploading of SwissGen pages by other people
by Richard Heli 31 Dec '97

31 Dec '97

My impression is that Dora must be on vacation -- suggest we wait until she returns and hear her opinion as well? Rick At 04:30 PM 12/31/97 +0100, you wrote: >Dear Rick, > >it's not going to be all that many pages to start with : right now there >are Tim Philipp (Graubuenden) and Willy Schwarz (Schaffhausen). Later a >separate directory for this might become useful - I assume it wouldn't >be too much work to set it up : so why not now already ? Who would have >to do this ? > >Announcement : OK - let's announce it to ch-gen-l; in this way I would >be informed as well, as at least for the time being I would like to have >some control - I would like to be the one announcing to webpages that a >new page is ready (again - for the time being only, to see how this >works out). > >Best regards to all - Wolf >-------------- >Wolf W. Seelentag, PhD, e-mail : wolf(a)swissmail.com >Klinik fuer Radio-Onkologie, Kantonsspital, >CH - 9007 St. Gallen, Switzerland >Tel : +41-71-4942233 Fax : +41-71-4942893 > >>---------- >>Von: Richard Heli[SMTP:heli@best.com] >>Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. Dezember 1997 19:58 >>An: webpages-l(a)genealogy.net >>Betreff: Re: uploading of SwissGen pages by other people >> >>Hi Wolf, >> >>Hmmm, if there are going to be a lot of new pages, I wonder if it would >>be worthwhile to create a separate directory for such uploads? Also, whether >>it would helpful to announce updates for review by the readers of ch-gen-l? >> >>Rick >> >>At 05:19 PM 12/28/97 +0100, you wrote: >>>Dear All, >>> >>SwissGen is not gowing as fast as I would like it - but it IS growing, >> ...... > >

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Re: "German Study Group"
by Richard Heli 31 Dec '97

31 Dec '97

Hi Wolf, Yes, someone alerted this list to the site some time ago, perhaps before you were on the list. The site was done by a class who were trying to learn how to research things on the WWW and how to create web pages in HTML. I talked to them a bit and invited some to take over pages on our site, but didn't get any takers. I'm not clear, now that the class is over, that anyone is going to be maintaining that site. Also, despite being an impressive collection of links, it is somewhat disorganized -- Cyndi Howell's site does better in this respect. Probably worth visiting though in case it has some links to sites that we don't know about. Rick At 04:04 PM 12/31/97 +0100, Seelentag Wolfhart KSSG_RO wrote: >The following link I've found on an IIGS page - even if you don't want >to link to it, it may be of interest : > >http://pegasus.adnc.com/~websites/lynnd/vudeu.html > > German Study Group > A study group project to aid German genealogy online research. > Contains links (with comments) for 1.General German Genealogy > Resources; 2.Maps, History, German Regions, Heraldry; 3.Databases > and Vital Records; 4.Tools: Phone Books, Translations, > Forms, Search Engines, Look-ups; 5.Immigration, Ships and >Naturalization; > 6.Other Internet Suggestions. Also at the site are lists > of books, words used in German genealogy, German/English Form > letters, and FAQ for most German lists. > >"German Genealogy Pages" are decribed as a "must" ! > >Best wishes for a happy and successful New Year - Wolf >-------------- >Wolf W. Seelentag, PhD, e-mail : wolf(a)swissmail.com >Klinik fuer Radio-Onkologie, Kantonsspital, >CH - 9007 St. Gallen, Switzerland >Tel : +41-71-4942233 Fax : +41-71-4942893 > > >

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AW: uploading of SwissGen pages by other people
by Seelentag Wolfhart KSSG_RO 31 Dec '97

31 Dec '97

Dear Rick, it's not going to be all that many pages to start with : right now there are Tim Philipp (Graubuenden) and Willy Schwarz (Schaffhausen). Later a separate directory for this might become useful - I assume it wouldn't be too much work to set it up : so why not now already ? Who would have to do this ? Announcement : OK - let's announce it to ch-gen-l; in this way I would be informed as well, as at least for the time being I would like to have some control - I would like to be the one announcing to webpages that a new page is ready (again - for the time being only, to see how this works out). Best regards to all - Wolf -------------- Wolf W. Seelentag, PhD, e-mail : wolf(a)swissmail.com Klinik fuer Radio-Onkologie, Kantonsspital, CH - 9007 St. Gallen, Switzerland Tel : +41-71-4942233 Fax : +41-71-4942893 >---------- >Von: Richard Heli[SMTP:heli@best.com] >Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. Dezember 1997 19:58 >An: webpages-l(a)genealogy.net >Betreff: Re: uploading of SwissGen pages by other people > >Hi Wolf, > >Hmmm, if there are going to be a lot of new pages, I wonder if it would >be worthwhile to create a separate directory for such uploads? Also, whether >it would helpful to announce updates for review by the readers of ch-gen-l? > >Rick > >At 05:19 PM 12/28/97 +0100, you wrote: >>Dear All, >> >SwissGen is not gowing as fast as I would like it - but it IS growing, > ......

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"German Study Group"
by Seelentag Wolfhart KSSG_RO 31 Dec '97

31 Dec '97

The following link I've found on an IIGS page - even if you don't want to link to it, it may be of interest : http://pegasus.adnc.com/~websites/lynnd/vudeu.html German Study Group A study group project to aid German genealogy online research. Contains links (with comments) for 1.General German Genealogy Resources; 2.Maps, History, German Regions, Heraldry; 3.Databases and Vital Records; 4.Tools: Phone Books, Translations, Forms, Search Engines, Look-ups; 5.Immigration, Ships and Naturalization; 6.Other Internet Suggestions. Also at the site are lists of books, words used in German genealogy, German/English Form letters, and FAQ for most German lists. "German Genealogy Pages" are decribed as a "must" ! Best wishes for a happy and successful New Year - Wolf -------------- Wolf W. Seelentag, PhD, e-mail : wolf(a)swissmail.com Klinik fuer Radio-Onkologie, Kantonsspital, CH - 9007 St. Gallen, Switzerland Tel : +41-71-4942233 Fax : +41-71-4942893

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Re:
by W. Fred Rump 31 Dec '97

31 Dec '97

Also sprach Gene Wolf on 30 Dec 97 at 19:52 about : > I have quite a large genealogy compiled from my family, wolf family. > They migrated here from southern Russia. I am interested in all I > can find on my ancestors. I am more than willing to give any of the > genealogy I have to whoever would be interested in it. > Gene, ideally you build a web page on your data and then bring the URL to the attention of the webmaster(a)genealogy.net so that we can link this page to the appropriate place on the German genealogy pages. Fred Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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Schlesien - Haus des teschnener Buches
by Richard Heli 30 Dec '97

30 Dec '97

Appears to be a nice site if you can read Polish. >From: Ksiaznica Cieszynska <kcc(a)cieszyn.petex.bielsko.pl> >To: <heli(a)genealogy.com> >Subject: Schlesien - Haus des teschnener Buches >Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 15:01:47 +0100 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > >Ich lade zu http://www.ata.com.pl/kcc auf. > >Krzysztof Szelong<html><head></head><BODY bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p><font size=2 color="#000000" face="Arial Narrow CE">Ich lade zu http://www.ata.com.pl/kcc auf.<br><br>Krzysztof Szelong</p> ></font></body></html>

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3 ergaenzte Seiten
by Volker Milbrandt 30 Dec '97

30 Dec '97

Hallo, habe soeben die ergaenzten Seiten nach ftp.genealogy.com geladen: -rw-rw-r-- 1 ftp gene 10141 Dec 30 12:15 varia-gen.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 ftp gene 10539 Dec 30 12:15 varia-oaw.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 ftp gene 3471 Dec 30 12:15 varia.html Diese sind fuer http://www.genealogy.com/gene/reg/BAD-WUE/ als Ersatz der gleichnamigen Seiten bestimmt. Ein gutes neues Jahr 1998 wuensche ich noch allen! Volker

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new Swiss pages : Canton Schaffhausen
by Seelentag Wolfhart KSSG_RO 29 Dec '97

29 Dec '97

Dear All, I would like to introduce Willy Schwarz to you : he's taken over the pages for Canton Schaffhausen (for the time being submitted via me, however). for .../gene/reg/CH/kant/ : http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/shallg-d.htm http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/shallg-e.htm and the corresponding link pages - for .../gene/reg/CH/ : http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/news-m.htm http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/kanton-m.htm http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/kanton-t.htm Best regards to all - Wolf -------------- Wolf W. Seelentag, PhD, e-mail : wolf(a)swissmail.com Klinik fuer Radio-Onkologie, Kantonsspital, CH - 9007 St. Gallen, Switzerland Tel : +41-71-4942233 Fax : +41-71-4942893

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by GUnger＠t-online.de 29 Dec '97

29 Dec '97

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Re: uploading of SwissGen pages by other people
by Richard Heli 28 Dec '97

28 Dec '97

Hi Wolf, Hmmm, if there are going to be a lot of new pages, I wonder if it would be worthwhile to create a separate directory for such uploads? Also, whether it would helpful to announce updates for review by the readers of ch-gen-l? Rick At 05:19 PM 12/28/97 +0100, you wrote: >Dear All, > >SwissGen is not gowing as fast as I would like it - but it IS growing, >with now two people on the team writing HTML pages. So far they have >sent me their pages as e-mail attachements, and I have submitted them to >the system. I would now like to gradually change this procedure : have >them upload their upgrades directly, but not announce them to webpages - >just to me; I'll have a look at the new pages, check e.g. whether any >links on other pages would need to be looked after, possibly send other >revised pages, and then notify webpages to have the pages placed on >their proper position. > >Please, let me know if there are any objections to this procedure. > >Best regards and my very best wishes for the New Year to all of you - >Wolf >-------------- >Wolf W. Seelentag, PhD, e-mail : wolf(a)swissmail.com >Klinik fuer Radio-Onkologie, Kantonsspital, >CH - 9007 St. Gallen, Switzerland >Tel : +41-71-4942233 Fax : +41-71-4942893 > > >

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uploading of SwissGen pages by other people
by Seelentag Wolfhart KSSG_RO 28 Dec '97

28 Dec '97

Dear All, SwissGen is not gowing as fast as I would like it - but it IS growing, with now two people on the team writing HTML pages. So far they have sent me their pages as e-mail attachements, and I have submitted them to the system. I would now like to gradually change this procedure : have them upload their upgrades directly, but not announce them to webpages - just to me; I'll have a look at the new pages, check e.g. whether any links on other pages would need to be looked after, possibly send other revised pages, and then notify webpages to have the pages placed on their proper position. Please, let me know if there are any objections to this procedure. Best regards and my very best wishes for the New Year to all of you - Wolf -------------- Wolf W. Seelentag, PhD, e-mail : wolf(a)swissmail.com Klinik fuer Radio-Onkologie, Kantonsspital, CH - 9007 St. Gallen, Switzerland Tel : +41-71-4942233 Fax : +41-71-4942893

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Und noch eine aktuelle Datei
by GUnger＠t-online.de 27 Dec '97

27 Dec '97

Guten Tag, ich habe gerade noch eine Datei für gene/vereine/AMF auf dem Server abgelegt: /gene/tmp/up/pages a-2.html Gruesse Guenther

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(Fwd) How might Autumn Star assist
by W. Fred Rump 27 Dec '97

27 Dec '97

------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 12:13:15 +0000 From: Anita Meyer <ameyer(a)autumnstar.com> Reply-to: AutumnStar(a)aol.com Organization: Autumn Star URL= http://www.autumnstar.com To: WebMaster(a)genealogy.net Subject: How might Autumn Star assist Greetings, My name is Anita Meyer and I have the domain of AutumnStar.com Call it my little WEBoutique or my one-woman web symphony, whatever you like, it's here to stay - naturally, it started out with a simple homepage that expanded into genealogy [ http://www.autumnstar.com/Genealogy/Genealogy.html/ ] among other things and became it's own domain by suggestion of others... to make a long story short... my maternal ancestors hail from Bavaria and I have been working on that sub-site, too.... I think your site is attempting to accomplish something that people coming to my site would want to visit OR, perhaps, people finding your site would like to see mine... not sure which... but it would be nice to avoid duplication, enhance each other's efforts and support what we're doing... tell me what you think after visiting the site, getting a feel for it's identity, structure and links... my paternal genealogy links from Alsace-Lorraine are more extensive and may be worth while to visit... Sincerely yours, Anita Meyer ------------- I've responded to this but the link should probably be included in the private pages. FR Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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by GUnger＠t-online.de 26 Dec '97

26 Dec '97

Guten Tag, ich habe gerade folgende Dateien upgeloadet: /gene/tmp/up/pages/AMF.html /gene/tmp/up/pages/anl_b4-1.doc /gene/tmp/up/pages/b4-1.html /gene/tmp/up/pages/d3-2.html /gene/tmp/up/pages/fam.xls /gene/tmp/up/pages/karte_c3.gif Diese sind fuer /vereine/AMF/ /gene/tmp/up/pages/thu-d.html Dieses ist fuer /reg/THU/ Viele Gruesse Guenther Unger

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(Fwd) Re: Silesian Agricultural Estate Registry
by W. Fred Rump 26 Dec '97

26 Dec '97

Sort of a commercial. Anybody want to do something with it? Fred ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: deichsa(a)win.bright.net Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 07:20:43 -0600 To: fred(a)k2nesoft.com Subject: Re: Silesian Agricultural Estate Registry Hi Fred, we are sorry about being less than specific. This may be what we should have said: 1. Translated information from the "Guter-Adressbuch" is available. The fee for average entrees is $ 10.00 pre-paid. 2. We are Silesians and can still read the dialect. 3. RF German-English Translation Services >hhtp://win.bright.net/~deichsa/welcome.html < is the main office, and Schubert German Genealogy Translation Services > http://www.win.bright.net/~jakeschu/welcome.html is our branch. 4. For better efficiency and faster service we will from now on handle all the Silesian information at the main office. Finally, we would like to express our appreciation for the excellent work you are doing. With best wishes for the coming year, W. Schubert W. Fred Rump wrote: > Also sprach deichsa(a)win.bright.net on 25 Dec 97 at 6:52 about > Silesian Agricultural Estate Regist: > > > Hi, > > information from the very rare "Schlesisches Guteradressbuch," 1937 > > ed. is now available from: > > > > http://www.win.bright.net/~jakeschu/welcome.html > > > > They will also do translations of the Silesian dialect written in > > the Old German Script. Happy Holidays! > > > > The link above is nothing but an invitation to write to an email > address for genealogical services. It certainly says nothing about > any Güteradressbuch as the message above implies. > > Fred > > Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred > 26 Warren St > Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or > 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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Frohe Weihnachten
by Reinhold Herrmann 24 Dec '97

24 Dec '97

Ich wuensche euch allen und euren Familien ein recht beschauliches Weihnachtsfest und einen guten Rutsch ins neue Jahr Rainer -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhold F. Herrmann | Email: RH(a)eics.com | Es muss ein Ruck durch Herrmann & Wintz GBR | RH(a)genealogy.net | dieses Land gehen Genealogy Network | Tel: 49-2237-560031 | (Roman Herzog) --------------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Frohe Weihnachten und alles Gute fuer 1998
by Holger Zierdt 23 Dec '97

23 Dec '97

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Frohe Weihnachten und alles Gute fuer 1998
by GUnger＠t-online.de 23 Dec '97

23 Dec '97

Ich wuensche allen Webpage-lern ein frohes Weihnachtsfest und fuer 1998 persoenlich und beruflich alles Gute. Ich freue mich schon auf diee weitere Zuammenarbeit im neuen Jahr Ihr Guenther Unger - aus Emmerich am Niederrhein -- * GUnger(a)t-online.de * * Guenther Unger, Kerstenstr. 34 * * D-46446 Emmerich * * Tel.: 02821-808170 o. 02822-80321, FAX: 02821-808200* * http://home.t-online.de/home/Guenther.Unger *

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E-Mail-Adressen des Schweizerischen Bundesrates
by Richard Heli 23 Dec '97

23 Dec '97

>Reply-To: <ernst.troendle(a)t-online.de> >To: <webmasterch(a)genealogy.net> >Subject: E-Mail-Adressen des Schweizerischen Bundesrates >Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 03:21:30 +0100 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 >X-Sender: 0746291285-0001(a)t-online.de >From: Ernst.Troendle(a)t-online.de > >Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren! > >Können Sie mir die E-Mail-Adressen der einzelnen Bundesräte und des >Bundespräsidenten mitteilen? >Evtl. auch Fax-Nummern. > >Mit freundlichen Grüssen >aus Immendingen-Hattingen >an der (oberen) Donauversickerung: > Ernst Tröndle >Auslandschweizer ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> ><HTML> ><HEAD> > ><META content=text/html;charset=iso-8859-1 http-equiv=Content-Type><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> ><META content='"MSHTML 4.71.1712.3"' name=GENERATOR> ></HEAD> ><BODY bgColor=#ffffff> ><DIV> ><DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren!</FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV> ><DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Können Sie mir die E-Mail-Adressen der >einzelnen Bundesräte und des Bundespräsidenten mitteilen?</FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2><FONT color=#000000>Evtl.</FONT> auch >Fax-Nummern.</FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV> ><DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Mit freundlichen Grüssen<BR>aus >Immendingen-Hattingen <BR>an der (oberen) >Donauversickerung:<BR>        &nbsp ;            &nb sp;            & nbsp;             >Ernst Tröndle Auslandschweizer</FONT> </DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML> >

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(Fwd) Re: German links in Australia
by W. Fred Rump 22 Dec '97

22 Dec '97

------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Reply-to: <phoenixcs(a)s054.aone.net.au> From: "Carolina Peters" <phoenixcs(a)s054.aone.net.au> To: <fred(a)k2nesoft.com> Subject: Re: German links in Australia Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 08:17:31 +1100 Greetings, My name is Carolina Peters (nee Anwandter). I was born in Chile - the fifth generation to be born there after Karl Anwandter emigrated from Germany in the early 1800s. Our family migrated to Australia in 1970 thereby expanding the Anwandter clan into Australia. I have historical information about the family in Chile, however, we are just starting in Australia, so I am not sure how much help I can be to you. My work telephone number is (02) 9816-1666 if you are interested. Many regards and Merry Christmas, Carolina. Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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(Fwd) What is this?
by W. Fred Rump 22 Dec '97

22 Dec '97

------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: Gary Ramthun <garyr(a)chisp.net> To: "'webmaster(a)genealogy.net'" <webmaster(a)genealogy.net> Subject: What is this? Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 12:00:02 -0700 When I am on the homepage >www.genealogy.com/gene/ It says "Welcome to the ...." When I click on the "Scottsdale, AZ, USA" I am linked to >www.qrz.com/ This is a page of Ham radio Call signs. This is confusing to me, and I've been doing this for a few years. If this is some special interest of one of the Webmasters, it may be of interest to him, but to a new guy interested in German Genealogy, it is pretty confusing. Thanks for all the work of putting so much information in one site. I just did a presentation to The Colorado Chapter of the Palatines to America, about on-line resources for German research. I could find very little that wasn't already on your pages. Good work. Gary Ramthun Aurora, CO Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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(Fwd) Private Familienseiten
by W. Fred Rump 22 Dec '97

22 Dec '97

------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 13:28:42 +0100 From: Günter Hansen <Guenter.Hansen(a)toppoint.de> Organization: Toppoint Mailbox e.V. To: webmaster(a)genealogy.net Cc: Guenter.Hansen(a)mail.in-kiel.de Subject: Private Familienseiten Hi, unter der Webadresse http://www.toppoint.de/~guenter/ habe ich heute Familien aus Sachsen-Anhalt, Niedersachsen, Schleswig-Holstein, Bayern, Baden-Wuerttemberg und Thueringen veroeffentlicht. Guenter.Hansen(a)mail.in-kiel.de Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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Provisional Update of Emigration Sources Page
by Michael Palmer 21 Dec '97

21 Dec '97

I have uploaded an updated version of my Emigration Sources bibliography to the /gene/temp/up/pages as "emigrati.neu" (the files "emigrati.htm" and "emigrati.new" are incomplete, aborted transfer attempts). The only major change is in the descrption of the Liverpool and London ship lists. I am calling this update "provisional" because there are many other additions/ corrections I want to make, but Debbie Beavis has been sending me irate messages about how the information I have posted on the British records is "all wrong", and I need to get her off my back as soon as possible. Naturally, if any of you knows of any glaring errors that I need to correct or of any additional sources I should list (bearing in mind that I am concerned here with emigration records only on the state or--in the case of Bavaria and Prussia--on the provincial level), please do let me know. I am investigating the current rumor about passenger records for Le Havre for 1780-1840 being available through the Groupement Genealogique du Havre et de Seine-Maritime, but I suspect this is the card file to which I already refer. I have also ordered Uwe Reich's new book _Aus Cottbus und Arnswalde in die Neue Welt_; it is, however, only 278 pages long, so I strongly suspect that it does *not* include any lists of emigrants. Does anyone know anything about the Institut f"ur Auswandererforschung that is/was at Warnem"unde? I am planning in January to split the Emigration Sources page into 2 separate sections: (1) emigration/immigration records other than ship passenger lists, and (2) ship passenger lists and sources for the history of the sailing vessels and steamships, both German and foreign, that carried German emigrants to North and South America, Australia, and South Africa. Michael -- Michael Palmer Claremont, California mpalmer(a)netcom.com

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(Fwd) Africana Library, Kimberley, South Africa
by W. Fred Rump 20 Dec '97

20 Dec '97

------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Reply-to: <afrilib(a)global.co.za> From: "Africana Library" <afrilib(a)global.co.za> To: <fred(a)k2nesoft.com> Subject: Africana Library, Kimberley, South Africa Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 13:44:40 +0200 Dear Fred Did you know of the existence of the Africana Library in Kimberley. We specialize in history depicting the early diamond fields from 1870. As there were German diggers as well, we offer our services for family research at a nominal fee of R50 plus photocopies and postage, depending on the amount of material found. Our newspapers go back to 1870 and our collection house 13 000 Africana books, pamphlets, 11 000 photographs. The history of the German Lutheran Church in Kimberley, German missionary at Pniel and several others. Our postal address is: Africana Library PO Box 627 8300 Kimberley South Africa Telephone no: (0531) 806247 Yours sincerely Mrs C Duminy Africana Librarian Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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HTML
by W. Fred Rump 19 Dec '97

19 Dec '97

HTML 4.0 Becomes A Standard The World Wide Web Consortium yesterday put its final stamp of approval on HTML 4.0, the next-generation of the Web's core markup language. The move to so-called Recommendation status means that all 200-plus members of the W3C have approved the HyperText Markup Language 4.0 spec, along with a final thumbs-up from W3C director Tim Berners-Lee. The spec moves standard HTML forward from its current HTML 3.2 level, the group's last "freezing" of the HTML standard. HTML 3.2 essentially collected and standardized the most popular Netscape and Microsoft extensions that were in use at that time. The W3C's Berners-Lee encouraged Web users and builders to insist on HTML 4.0 compliance in order to ensure a vendor- independent Web. "There really is no excuse for tying yourselves or your partners to proprietary solutions," he said in a statement. The first public working draft of HTML 4.0 was published in July. The final standard includes improvements to forms, tables and frames, as well as increased support for Web objects, scripting and style sheets. The spec also includes improvements to make Web pages more accessible for users with disabilities, for instance, allowing table and form text to be rendered into Braille or speech. In related news, the W3C unveiled the W3C HTML Validation Service at http://validator.w3.org/. Web developers can use the service to validate their Web pages against the HTML 4.0 standard. FR Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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Frohe Weinachten! Merry Christmas!
by Veit Olschinski 18 Dec '97

18 Dec '97

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comment on Germans to America page
by Richard Heli 18 Dec '97

18 Dec '97

Perhaps someone, Jim?, wishes to reply? >From: " KOBUK; imo" <acone(a)cmc.net> >To: <webmaster(a)genealogy.net> >Subject: Germans to America >Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 19:04:02 -0800 >X-MSMail-Priority: High > >The Germans to America, the 50 volumn set I am refering to. > >Santa Rosa, California, Sonoma county library only contains Vol 1 & 2. >That is it. Just those two volumns. > >Someone should upgrade this list to indicate which volumnes each library >have. I assumed Santa Rosa library contained all 50 volumns. When I got >there I found only TWO. > >http://w3g.med.uni-giessen.de/gene/www/emig/gta-holdings.html > >Thought I would let you know so these two volumns could be listed in the >above list. > >Scotty > >

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updated page
by Seelentag Wolfhart KSSG_RO 17 Dec '97

17 Dec '97

I have just updated (fixed a few broken links) the following page for .../gene/reg/CH/ : http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/contac-e.htm Best regards - Wolf -------------- Wolf W. Seelentag, PhD, e-mail : wolf(a)swissmail.com Klinik fuer Radio-Onkologie, Kantonsspital, CH - 9007 St. Gallen, Switzerland Tel : +41-71-4942233 Fax : +41-71-4942893

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updated WWW-Pages in USA
by Rudolf Schmid 17 Dec '97

17 Dec '97

Hi Dora, habe eben erfolgreich zwei Files, BLF-d.html und BLF-GENTAG.html nach USA tranferiert und bitte um entsprechenden Austausch. Herzlichen Gruss aus Muenchen bei 3 cm Schneehoehe und -5 Grad ! Rudi host: qrz.com dir /full "gene/gene/tmp/up/pages" ... -rw-rw-r-- 1 ftp gene 5692 Dec 17 11:16 BLF-GENTAG.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 ftp gene 16654 Dec 17 11:19 BLF-d.html ...

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(Fwd) German who migrated to Russian
by W. Fred Rump 16 Dec '97

16 Dec '97

------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: RemMick <RemMick(a)aol.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 15:17:23 EST To: fred(a)k2nesoft.com Subject: German who migrated to Russian Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Web Site for Borodino / Bessarabia, a German colony founded in Russia 1814 at: http://members.aol.com/RemMick/HubertHomeSite.index.html/ Also includes ancestoral villages of: (1) Huberts who were Catholics who migratesds to Temesvar, Rumania from Trier & Saarland in the 1700s (2) Remmicks who were Lutheran who migrateds to Worms/ Odessa. S. Russia from Edenkoben, Landau, Palatinate....1809 (3) Hein family migr. to Kulm, Prussia [Poland] then Borodino/Bess. founded in 1814 Thanks. RemMick(a)aol.com Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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updated Swiss pages
by Seelentag Wolfhart KSSG_RO 15 Dec '97

15 Dec '97

Dear All, I have just loaded the following pages : for .../gene/reg/CH/ : http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/home-m.htm for .../gene/reg/CH/kant/ : http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/sgallg-d.htm http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/sgallg-e.htm for .../gene/reg/CH/ver/ : http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/htinfo-d.htm By accident I also loaded HTINFO-D.HTM (capital letters) - this is identical and should be deleted. Thank you. I wish you all a MERRY CHRISTMAS AND ALL THE BEST FOR THE NEW YEAR ! Wolf -------------- Wolf W. Seelentag, PhD, e-mail : wolf(a)swissmail.com Klinik fuer Radio-Onkologie, Kantonsspital, CH - 9007 St. Gallen, Switzerland Tel : +41-71-4942233 Fax : +41-71-4942893

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http://www.bellnet.com/suchen/hobby/genealog.htm
by Richard Heli 15 Dec '97

15 Dec '97

Hi, Not sure if this site has been mentioned here before: http://www.bellnet.com/suchen/hobby/genealog.htm It is basically a page of links & there are several of the inevitable private family pages, but in addition there are some links which some of you may have seen, but I have not such as on Sudetenland, East Prussia archive index, etc. Sorry if this is old news, but thought it might be worth mentioning. They do link to the top of our regional pages. Rick

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Re: quick comment
by Jim Eggert 14 Dec '97

14 Dec '97

Rick wrote: > Just a quick comment on the > Adressb=FCcher/Address books not/nicht in Ribbe and Henning page. > > Perhaps the title > > Taschenbuch f=FCr Familiengeschichtsforschung, =20 > > should be in <cite>italics</cite>? Ok, I've done it. The new version has been uploaded to gene/tmp/up/pages/adressbuecher.html -- =Jim Eggert EggertJ(a)LL.mit.edu

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(Fwd) (Fwd)
by W. Fred Rump 13 Dec '97

13 Dec '97

------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 12:17:35 -0600 From: Charles Mies <cmies(a)nvsn.com> To: fred(a)k2nesoft.com If you would like to add our Mies family URL to your list please feel free to do so. www.mies.com Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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Austro-Hungarian page
by Richard Heli 12 Dec '97

12 Dec '97

Hi, I've installed this page as /gene/reg/AUT/aut-hun.html in case any would like to link to it. Thanks for all the feedback. Rick

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New web pages
by Jim Eggert 12 Dec '97

12 Dec '97

I've uploaded minor upgrades to several pages to the gene/tmp/up/pages directory: To be moved to gene/reg/NSAC schaumburg-lippe.html schaumburg-lippe_gaz.html schaumburg-lippe_biblio.html To be moved to /gene/misc maps-lva.html The changes are mostly minor upgrades to the Schaumburg-Lippe files, and some link fixes. -- =Jim Eggert EggertJ(a)LL.mit.edu

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map source
by Richard Heli 09 Dec '97

09 Dec '97

Those maintaining pages for regions in the east: An Australian source for East & Central European maps in Australia is at http://www.macbeth.com.au/fiche/eur.html Rick

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Upload
by GUnger＠t-online.de 09 Dec '97

09 Dec '97

Hallo, ich habe 2 Dateien upgeloadet: hist-ndh.html rechardt.html beide sind fuer gene/reg/THU/NDH bestimmt. Gruesse Guenther -- * GUnger(a)t-online.de * * Guenther Unger, Kerstenstr. 34 * * D-46446 Emmerich * * Tel.: 02821-808170 o. 02822-80321, FAX: 02821-808200 * * http://home.t-online.de/home/Guenther.Unger *

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Re: new page
by Richard Heli 09 Dec '97

09 Dec '97

It was the best part of 2 centuries though! :) OK, I changed it to a single century. Thanks. Rick At 09:41 AM 12/9/97 -0500, you wrote: >Rick Heli wrote: > >> http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/ahe.html > >One minor nit: > >> There were several exchanges of territory before peace returned and >> final boundaries were set at the Congress of Vienna, which met >> from September 1814 to June 1815. Over the next two centuries, >> there were additions to the Empire, as for example when in 1846 > >There really haven't been two centuries since Napoleon, especially for >the Austro-Hungarian Empire. > >-- >=Jim Eggert EggertJ(a)LL.mit.edu > >

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Re: new page
by Richard Heli 09 Dec '97

09 Dec '97

At 12:58 PM 12/9/97 +0100, you wrote: >On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Rick Heli wrote: > >> http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/ahe.html > >Liest sich sehr gut. Steckt viel Arbeit drin, danke. thanks > >2 minor points: >a) Political Divisions > Hungary > Rest >is Austria part of the "rest" ? (Apparently it is, but would have >Austrians at their time seen it the same?) That's right -- there really wasn't any name for the everything else. No concept of a separate Austria yet although a Lower Austria and Upper Austria did exist. If anything, the inhabitants would probably have defined Austria as the whole thing. One could make the argument for listing Croatia and its subcomponents separately as they did have a diet and a slight amount of autonomy, but on the other hand it was nowhere near that enjoyed by Hungary. It was certainly not the Austro-Hungarian-Croatian Empire. > >b) a question from a non-native speaker. Is "to annex" the same as our >"annektieren" i.e. to take over forcefully (and perhaps illegally) >If so another wording for Actually the forcefully and illegally part of "annex" are completely missing from the definition, at least in my dictionary which has 1. to attach as a quality, consequence or condition 2. (archaic) to join together materially: unite 3. subjoin, append 4. to incorporate (a country or other territory) within the domain of a state 5. to obtain or take for oneself To me "annex" seems preferable to conquer, grab, steal, rob, rape ... In English, Frederick the Great's move is sometimes called The Rape of Silesia I believe. >... German-Austria, which had been first proclaimed in October 30, 1918. >It was thought that it would be annexed to Germany, but this was forbidden >by the Western Powers. > >might be more appropriate. As far as I remember German-Austria wanted to >join the Weimarer Republik. The W.R. had no power to annex (in its >negative sense) anything. > >I just saw that this was the same in the existing Austria page. Perhaps I >should look at our new pages more regularly ;-) I have changed this to "joined with" in both cases so that no one will mis-interpret. Thanks. Rick > >Arthur.Teschler(a)uni-giessen.de > > >

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updated WWW-Pages in USA
by Rudolf Schmid 09 Dec '97

09 Dec '97

Hi Dora, habe eben erfolgreich zwei modifizierte Files, BLF-d.html und BLF-BAND.html nach USA tranferiert und bitte um entsprechenden Austausch. Herzlichen Gruss aus Muenchen Rudi host: qrz.com dir /full "gene/gene/tmp/up/pages" ... -rw-rw-r-- 1 ftp gene 24850 Dec 9 17:28 BLF-BAND.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 ftp gene 16572 Dec 9 17:28 BLF-d.html ...

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RE: OFB Hessen mit OFBs von G.Schweizer
by Holger Zierdt 09 Dec '97

09 Dec '97

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Re: new page
by Rick Heli 09 Dec '97

09 Dec '97

> http://www.genealogy.com/gene/temp/up/pages/ahe.html Actually, http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/ahe.html

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new page
by Rick Heli 09 Dec '97

09 Dec '97

Hi, Any comments on a proposed regional treatment of the Habsburg Empire: http://www.genealogy.com/gene/temp/up/pages/ahe.html ? Rick

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Prussian list
by D. Selig 08 Dec '97

08 Dec '97

Kann jemand helfen? Gruss, Dora ----- Begin Included Message ----- Subject: Prussian list Date: Sun, 7 Dec 97 19:30:47 -0000 From: Mike Dellger <schbibik(a)dataplusnet.com> To: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L(a)rootsweb.com> X-Mailing-List: <GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-L(a)rootsweb.com> archive/latest/1089 Dear List Members, I am trying to locate information on my great grandmother who was born in Smielsdorf, Prussia, in 1830. Her name was Auguste Schulz. Would any of you know if there is a list dealing with Prussian research, and if so how I might be able to contact them? If there is not such a list, I'd appreciate any information on how I might continue my research in this area, who to contact, etc. Thank you very much. Mike Dellger ----- End Included Message -----

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(Fwd) nenadg
by W. Fred Rump 08 Dec '97

08 Dec '97

------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: "nenadg" <nenadg(a)EUnet.yu> To: <fred(a)k2nesoft.com> Subject: nenadg Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 02:54:44 +0100 Dear Mr. Rump As you could see I am very "new" in handling the things specialy the computer so be prepared and I will do my best. About the informations that may interest you: 1. I would say,from my experience,that about 70% of info. are accessible,specialy church books, but 2. The church books are available only in the place of Issue (there is no central place where man could go through the books) 3. Civil records usualy do not include the period befor WW2 4. Besides all of this everything is so disorganized and need a lot of time and patience. Now when you know the situation maybe you will find the way how to use my presence in Yugoslavia for the mutual satisvaction. Nenad Govorcinovic,Belgrade P.S. Please ask mr.Heli to contact me again, I lost his message and have very much personal interest in Syrmien Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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www.genealogy.com/gene: OSTFRIESLAND>KIRCHENBUECHER
by Richard Heli 07 Dec '97

07 Dec '97

I suppose this could be added to a regional page somewhere? >Reply-To: <helms.g(a)metronet.de> >From: "Helms" <helms.g(a)metronet.de> >To: <webmaster(a)genealogy.net> >Subject: www.genealogy.com/gene: OSTFRIESLAND>KIRCHENBUECHER >Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 08:43:35 +0100 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > >Ich habe folgende Ergaenzung zum Stichwort: "Kirchenbuecher" > >In Ostfriesland existieren folgende Baptistengemeinden, die heute >Evangelisch-Freikirchliche Gemeinden heißen: > >Aurich >Bad Zwischenahn (Ammerland) >Ditzumerverlaat (Rheiderland) >Emden (mit Rysum) >Esens >Firrel >Ihren >Ihrhove >Jennelt / Krummhörn (früher: Hamswehrum) >Jever (Friesland) >Leer >Moorhusen >Norden >Remels >Veenhusen >Velde (Westerstede) >Weener >Westerstede (Ammerland) >Wilhelmshaven (Oldenburg) >Wymeer (Bunde) > >Die Kirchenbuecher sind in der Regel nur nach Absprache einzusehen. >Nähere Informationen und Adressen bei >Pastor Gregor Helms, Bremen >helms.g(a)metronet.de< > >

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updated Swiss pages
by Seelentag Wolfhart 06 Dec '97

06 Dec '97

I have just sent three updated pages : for .../gene/reg/CH/ : http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/contac-e.htm http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/conreg-m.htm for .../gene/reg/CH/kant/ : http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/grallg-e.htm Thanks and best regards - Wolf -------------- Wolf W. Seelentag, PhD, e-mail : wolf(a)swissmail.com Klinik fuer Radio-Onkologie, Kantonsspital, CH - 9007 St. Gallen, Switzerland Tel : +41-71-4942233 Fax : +41-71-4942893

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RE: OFB Hessen mit OFBs von G.Schweizer
by Holger Zierdt 05 Dec '97

05 Dec '97

-----Original Message----- From: D. Selig [SMTP:dselig@sd.id.ethz.ch] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 1997 5:42 PM To: webpages-l(a)genealogy.net Subject: OFB Hessen mit OFBs von G.Schweizer Dazu meint Guenther Schweizer (er ist nicht in webpages-l) das man dies in webpages-l diskutieren sollte - also, wollen wir die Links in seine pages einbauen? Die OGB-Seiten hat Arthur installiert, Gruss, Dora ----- End Included Message ----- Ich wuerde mich dafuer entscheiden, die Links in beiderseitig in die Seiten einzubauen. Holger Holger Zierdt Muenchhausenstrasse 38 37085 Goettingen fon: +49 (551) 484082 fax: +49 (551) 396153 hzierdt(a)med.uni-goettingen.de hzierdt(a)metronet.de begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT M>)\^(C$'`0:0" `$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y 0```````#H``$(@ <` M& ```$E032Y-:6-R;W-O9G0@36%I;"Y.;W1E`#$(`0V ! `"`````@`"``$$ MD 8`R $```$````0`````P``, (````+``\.``````(!_P\!````3P`````` M``"!*Q^DOJ,0&9UN`-T!#U0"`````'=E8G!A9V5S+6Q 9V5N96%L;V=Y+FYE M= !33510`'=E8G!A9V5S+6Q 9V5N96%L;V=Y+FYE= ``'@`", $````%```` M4TU44 `````>``,P`0```!D```!W96)P86=E<RUL0&=E;F5A;&]G>2YN970` M`````P`5# $````#`/X/!@```!X``3 !````&P```"=W96)P86=E<RUL0&=E M;F5A;&]G>2YN970G```"`0LP`0```!X```!33510.E=%0E!!1T53+4Q 1T5. M14%,3T=9+DY%5 ````,``#D`````"P! .@$````>`/9?`0```!D```!W96)P M86=E<RUL0&=E;F5A;&]G>2YN970``````@'W7P$```!/`````````($K'Z2^ MHQ 9G6X`W0$/5 (`````=V5B<&%G97,M;$!G96YE86QO9WDN;F5T`%--5% ` M=V5B<&%G97,M;$!G96YE86QO9WDN;F5T```#`/U?`0````,`_U\``````@'V M#P$````$`````````IED`02 `0`H````4D4Z($]&0B!(97-S96X@;6ET($]& M0G,@=F]N($<N4V-H=V5I>F5R`-X,`06 `P`.````S0<,``4`" `:`"\`!0`[ M`0$@@ ,`#@```,T'# `%``@`&0`+``4`%@$!"8 !`"$````Y-T(R-SDW130Y M-D1$,3$Q03=%13 P,#!#,#$Q,C-#1@`3!P$#D 8`< 8``"$````+``(``0`` M``L`(P```````P`F```````+`"D```````,`+@```````P`V``````! `#D` MX*!H)4\!O0$>`' ``0```"@```!213H@3T9"($AE<W-E;B!M:70@3T9"<R!V M;VX@1RY38VAW96EZ97(``@%Q``$````6`````;T!3R57?GFRF&U)$=&G[@`` MP!$CSP``'@`># $````%````4TU44 `````>`!\,`0```!X```!H>FEE<F1T M0&UE9"YU;FDM9V]E='1I;F=E;BYD90````,`!A _4]_6`P`'$#L"```>``@0 M`0```&4````M+2TM+4]224=)3D%,34534T%'12TM+2TM1E)/33I$4T5,24=3 M3510.D1314Q)1T!31$E$151(6D-(4T5.5#I7141.15-$05DL1$5#14U"15(P M,RPQ.3DW-3HT,E!-5$\Z5T5"``````(!"1 !````.0,``#4#``#P! ``3%I& M=6/%G8EW``H!`P'W( *D`^,"`'#P<G$R( <3`H,`4 [VA&-H"L!S970P#[G& M,@+C$.E486@#<0* )GT*@ C((#L);S(UYC4"@ J!=6,`4 L#"V! ;F<Q,#,S M"Z0QCC8*H@J$%K%I,S8!0%D/<&]T!9 %0"T9<D\]!1!G"X '0 70!Y!S8?QG M91ES%]89!!C1"Q,9!,$"`&DM,30T`4 8D#(a)Q.# !0 S0'1-B("I&`V$Z#(-B M$7!$+@,&41B09R!;4TU4&% Z9!% 'X% <V2,+FD@H!%0:'HN$0"^71?5'D & M8 (P'J=7"8#";@>09&%Y+!\@!9 V90;0!) @%R C8#$Y0#DW(#4Z- ^@4!)- M(7=4;QZG=V5BPPJP&J!S+6Q &J C`.$'0&]G>2XC`!S (8<8=6)J&3$>IT]& M0HP@2!IA"? @;6D%0 LI800@=@(@($<N4_,1`"90:7H$D!L?'"H8E!\6U1!A M$&(,`1?C1&%Z?G4J`"M `C JT I0`C!H\R/A*P<@*"/A! `%0 ,`[Q$`!4 + M@"9)*1?4(S $(#T#@F0(D 0@,>LSD7-KK'5T")$IX7,&\&P9(-T98" '0#60 M(V!W-:$IX:\#\ 7 ,Z$7U$P+@&LSTR\10 N -> F@R O@6)A'2_A/Q\@") I M4$="+?\&8"H@*>$1$ 5 !Q A``APGS'1,5 '0!B0!)!T+!?4>$=R=000(V ? M( 6P83<7U!ES`S!C`$$L!B!%#FX+,#X`&-@@26YC^PI `0!D&D899#W[%]@* M@/Y)$0`F0 I0"R UX"H00N'](S!F0R$Y``(P!/ P("# ]PGP(V SH2 WQR/0 M1+$1,?\J(!^1,>$W-SHU+X$O0#E#^BY"&D@&\!J@*X<7^1;F?TG*/Q(MR!(Q M%Z D(a)$E4(.I:")%D)\5-+^$1`!$0'SR0"? Q4#T0*<$@,SA!%]0S-S X-2K0 M;S\14#4@%O )\!?4`A$Z(!@K-#DP\!70,2D@-#0X'3 X$C!1=&%XP5'Z,SDV M,35+12$0+4WS0 > (*!U`P`M9_U0URX!`%3.3W "(!%05L=?&#\<LBYJ0AH3 MP0!;\ ````,`$! ``````P`1$ `````#`( 0_____T `!S#@FDCL3@&]`4 ` M"##@FDCL3@&]`0L`!H (( 8``````, ```````!&``````.%`````````P`( M@ @@!@``````P ```````$8`````$(4````````#``N "" &``````# ```` M````1@````!2A0``MPT``!X`*X (( 8``````, ```````!&`````%2%```! M````! ```#@N, `#`"R "" &``````# ````````1@`````!A0````````L` M-8 (( 8``````, ```````!&``````Z%`````````P`V@ @@!@``````P `` M`````$8`````$84````````#`#B "" &``````# ````````1@`````8A0`` M`````!X`1X (( 8``````, ```````!&`````#:%```!`````0`````````> M`$B "" &``````# ````````1@`````WA0```0````$`````````'@!)@ @@ M!@``````P ```````$8`````.(4```$````!`````````!X`/0`!````!0`` 3`%)%.B ``````P`--/TW```9;84` ` end

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Re: Probleme mit E-Mail
by Rudolf Schmid 05 Dec '97

05 Dec '97

Lieber Rainer, ich hoffe dass es meinem E-Mail Manger-Spezi gelungen ist, meine E-Mail Absenderadresse auf Rudolf.Schmid(a)dlr.de einzustellen. Auf jeden Fall herzlichen Dank Rudi

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Probleme mit E-Mail
by Rudolf.Schmid＠dlr.de 04 Dec '97

04 Dec '97

Hi, da Rechner meines Arbeitgebers als Gastsysteme fuer den Versand von gefaelschter E-Mail benutzt wurden (Schlagwort "Mail Spamming"), werden ab 1.1.1998 nur noch E-Mails, die in den Domain Server Namen enthalten, weitergeleitet. Bitte ersetzt meine derzeitige E-Mail Adresse in der "E-Mail Liste" schmid(a)ohf015.hf.op.dlr.de in Rudolf.Schmid(a)dlr.de Vielen Dank und herzlichem Gruss aus dem verschneitem Muenchen Rudi

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note for Austria
by Richard Heli 03 Dec '97

03 Dec '97

>Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 16:41:35 -0800 >From: Meinrad Pichler <bg.gallus1(a)schulen.vol.at> >Reply-To: bg.gallus1(a)schulen.vol.at >Organization: BG-Gallus >To: webmaster(a)genealogy.net >Subject: adition > >Dear Webmaster, >I want to give a contribution to your gen.page. I have writen a book on >Emigrants from Vorarlberg to US in the time from 1800 to 1938. After a >general description it contains names and datas of 5000 emigrants. >Vorarlberg is the most western State of Austria. >The title of the book is: >Meinrad Pichler: Auswanderer, Von Vorarlberg in die USA 1800-1938. >Vorarlberger Autoren Gesellschaft, Bregenz 1993. > >People who have questions to this region are invited to contact me. >e-mail: bg.gallus1(a)schulen.vol.at > >

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OFB Hessen mit OFBs von G.Schweizer
by D. Selig 03 Dec '97

03 Dec '97

> From: Holger Zierdt <hzierdt(a)WisLAN1.med.uni-goettingen.de> > To: "'D. Selig'" <dselig(a)sd.id.ethz.ch> > Cc: "G.Schweizer(a)uni-koeln.de" <G.Schweizer(a)uni-koeln.de> > > von Dora: > > P.S. Sind die OFB Hessen eigentlich auch in dem Verzeichnis von > > Guenther Schweizer enthalten? > > http://www.genealogy.com/gene/misc/ofb/ofind.html > > vielleicht sollten dort links zu Hessen-OFB pages auch sein? http://www.genealogy.com/gene/reg/HES/heslit/heskb.html ? > > Dora und Guenther, > > das ist eine Frage, wie wir das handhaben wollen. Ich hatte mir darueber schon den > Kopf zerbrochen. > Viele der bekannteren OFB sind auch auf Guenthers Seiten verzeichnet. > Seine Seiten gegen die von > Hessen abzugleichen, waere moeglich, aber vielleicht auch doppelte Arbeit. > Die hessischen Seiten sollen in den naechsten Wochen und Monaten noch > betraechtlich wachsen, im Grunde > genommen ist es Material, das ich fuer ein geplantes Kirchenbuchverzeichnis > fuer Hessen (spez. Kurhessen) > sammele. Ich werde dafuer auch Informationen ueber sogn. "graue" oder "halbgraue" > Veroeffentlichungen > bekommen, also solche, die nicht oder nur in Kleinstauflagen veroeffentlicht > wurden, incl. Quellen, wo man > die dann finden kann. > Wenn Guenther einverstanden ist, waere es vielleicht am einfachsten, einen Link > auf seinen Seiten einzufuegen. > Ich finde seine Zusammenstellung sehr bemerkenswert, jedoch ist in vielen > Faellen ein Zugriff ueber eine regionale > Gliederung, die ja auch unserem ganzen Server zugrundeliegt, fuer die Suchenden einfacher. > Was meint Ihr? > Dazu meint Guenther Schweizer (er ist nicht in webpages-l) das man dies in webpages-l diskutieren sollte - also, wollen wir die Links in seine pages einbauen? Die OGB-Seiten hat Arthur installiert, Gruss, Dora ----- Begin Included Message -----

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added links to VFFOW from verbaende.html and oprus.html
by D. Selig 03 Dec '97

03 Dec '97

Hallo, habe ein link zu der neuen page http://www.genealogy.com/gene/vereine/VFFOW/vffow.htm des Vereins fuer Familienforschung in Ost- und Westpreussen von http://www.genealogy.com/gene/www/ghlp/verbaende.html (Liste der DAGV-Verbaende) und von http://www.genealogy.com/gene/reg/OPRU/oprus.html (Ostpreussen) gemacht. Hoffe, es ist so OK? Gruss, Dora

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None
by None 02 Dec '97

02 Dec '97

Dora und Holger, die Frage, ob von meiner allgemeinen Liste links nach Verzeichnissen von Ortsfamilienbuechern in Hessen bestehen oder geschaffen werden sollten, koennte man vielleicht in der Lenkungsgruppe der SGG diskutieren, auf deren Verteiler ich (auf eigenen Wunsch, aus Zeitgruenden) nicht mehr stehe. Ich selbst haette nichts dagegen; wichtig waere auf jeden Fall, dass oeffentlich zugaengliche Standorte fuer die einzelnen Buecher genannt werden (bei *grauer Literatur* das Hauptproblem). Wenn solche links eingebracht werden, sollten sie vice-versa geschaffen werden. Im uebrigen gelang es meinem Rechner nicht, die genannten Hessen-Seiten nicht herbeizuschaffen. Gruss Guenther ----- End Included Message -----

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AW: Roth family book index online at Indexes Unlimited
by Seelentag Wolfhart 02 Dec '97

02 Dec '97

Yes - there are definitely several Swiss names : I'll compare the index (the most common names) with Familiennamenbuch and then likely link to this page form my "family pages" page. There are alltogether some 40 books indexed - all the others seem to be dealing with US genealogy only. Best regards - Wolf -------------- Wolf W. Seelentag, PhD, e-mail : wolf(a)swissmail.com Klinik fuer Radio-Onkologie, Kantonsspital, CH - 9007 St. Gallen, Switzerland Tel : +41-71-4942233 Fax : +41-71-4942893 >---------- >Von: D. Selig[SMTP:dselig@sd.id.ethz.ch] >Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. Dezember 1997 09:22 >An: webpages-l(a)genealogy.net >Betreff: Roth family book index online at Indexes Unlimited > >Weiss nicht, ob das jemanden interessiert? Mir scheinen die Namen >aus dem unten erwaehnten Buch eher of Swiss origin? >Gruss, Dora >----- Begin Included Message ----- > >From fowlerc(a)eburg.com Mon Dec 1 21:33:17 1997 >Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 12:33:51 -0800 >From: Chris Fowler <fowlerc(a)eburg.com> >To: dselig(a)sd.id.ethz.ch >Subject: Roth family book index online at Indexes Unlimited > >Hello, > >I saw your name in the Rand Surname List as being a Roth researcher. I >have recently uploaded a book index that included the Roth family. If >it looks interesting, come check it out. The book is: > >The John Gerig Family Record, 1806-1953, compiled by R. E. Roth. It is >a 37 page transcript written in 1953, and includes the Amstutz, >Ringenberg, Roth, Sprunger, and Stucky families. > >This and many other book indexes are available to search here at Indexes >Unlimited. > >Thank you for your time, and good luck in your research, > >Chris Fowler >Indexes Unlimited >http://www.eburg.com/~fowlerc/browse.html > >----- End Included Message ----- >

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Roth family book index online at Indexes Unlimited
by D. Selig 02 Dec '97

02 Dec '97

Weiss nicht, ob das jemanden interessiert? Mir scheinen die Namen aus dem unten erwaehnten Buch eher of Swiss origin? Gruss, Dora ----- Begin Included Message -----

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OFB Hessen
by Holger Zierdt 02 Dec '97

02 Dec '97

Hallo Dora, habe soeben zwei stark ueberarbeitete Dateien mit OFB Hessen upgeloadet: http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/heskb.html und http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/waldeck_osb.html Bitte beide nach reg/HES/heslit/ moven. Danke! Viele Gruesse, Holger Holger Zierdt Muenchhausenstrasse 38 37085 Goettingen fon: +49 (551) 484082 fax: +49 (551) 396153 hzierdt(a)med.uni-goettingen.de hzierdt(a)metronet.de

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Roth family book index online at Indexes Unlimited
by Chris Fowler 01 Dec '97

01 Dec '97

Hello, I saw your name in the Rand Surname List as being a Roth researcher. I have recently uploaded a book index that included the Roth family. If it looks interesting, come check it out. The book is: The John Gerig Family Record, 1806-1953, compiled by R. E. Roth. It is a 37 page transcript written in 1953, and includes the Amstutz, Ringenberg, Roth, Sprunger, and Stucky families. This and many other book indexes are available to search here at Indexes Unlimited. Thank you for your time, and good luck in your research, Chris Fowler Indexes Unlimited http://www.eburg.com/~fowlerc/browse.html ----- End Included Message -----

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Upload
by Holger Zierdt 01 Dec '97

01 Dec '97

Hallo Dora, habe upgeloadet: http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/hesbiblioth.html fur das Verzeichnis reg/HES/ mit Korrekturen v. broken links. Gruss, Holger Holger Zierdt Muenchhausenstrasse 38 37085 Goettingen fon: +49 (551) 484082 fax: +49 (551) 396153 hzierdt(a)med.uni-goettingen.de hzierdt(a)metronet.de

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Re: page count
by Richard Heli 01 Dec '97

01 Dec '97

A couple months ago I pointed out to Fred Lloyd that qrz.com and genealogy.com were both sharing the same page counter. As it wasn't that interesting to have the combined total counted, I believe he switched them to separate counters at that time and presumably reset them to zero simultaneously. At 05:50 PM 11/30/97 -0500, you wrote: >This page has been accessed 166,972 times. >Last update: 06-Nov-97 (rmh) > >Is there a seventh digit missing? I remember many months ago this >counter was around 600,000. > >Fred > > >Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred >26 Warren St >Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or >609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com > >

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