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by W. Fred Rump 28 Jan '98

28 Jan '98

------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 07:53:23 +0100 To: fred(a)k2nesoft.com From: Rolf Freytag <freytag(a)methusal.zfe.siemens.de> Subject: German regional webpages Hallo, ich habe eine Homepage (http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/freytag) mit folgendem Inhalt - Meine Ahnen - Die Familienbücher von Rudi Jung, die in der Hauptsache den Hunsrück betreffen mit einem Register der in den Büchern behandelten Orte und ihrer Filialorte und einem Namensregister über alle Bücher - Rolf (eMail: freytag(a)compudserve.com) Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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(Fwd) link error
by W. Fred Rump 28 Jan '98

28 Jan '98

------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:13:42 -0800 From: Arnie & Susan Meyer <berrybas(a)telusplanet.net> Reply-to: berrybas(a)telusplanet.net Organization: The Berry Basket To: webmaster(a)genealogy.net Subject: link error Greetings. I enjoyed your website very much. I was searching for genealogy societies in Germany, especially Essen. The following link caused an error: Westdeutsche Gesellschaft für Familienkunde e.V. (WGfF) c/o Claus Geis, Unter Gottes Gnaden 34, 50895 Kön Genealogie und Heraldik in der ehemaligen Rheinprovinz (ohne Saarland) It was at: http://www.genealogy.com/gene/reg/NRHE-WFA/NRW.html Keep up the good work. Al Meyer abcmeyer(a)telusplanet.net Vice-president Grande Prairie & District Branch Alberta Genealogical Society Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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private pages
by W. Fred Rump 27 Jan '98

27 Jan '98

O.K. vielleicht interessiert's Dich: Brigitte Gastel-Lloyd und Fred Lloyd habe freundlicherweise meine Datenbank auf genealogy.com veröffentlicht: http://www.genealogy.com/ged/max/ From: Gschneidinger Max <Max.Gschneidinger(a)ZP.SIEMENS.DE>

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Re: Mass-Tabellen
by Arthur Teschler 27 Jan '98

27 Jan '98

On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, Richard Heli wrote: > >Rick, Uwe sends his file by Email: pages(a)genealogy.net - and the filenames > >are in upper case in MIME-Header. Could Uwe change it somewhere in setup? > > Hmmm, that is a good question. There appear to be two unknowns here: > (1) what mailer is Uwe using and Inet_Mail_OUT v11 (according to Uwe's headers) > (2) what is the program which lies at the other > end of the pages alias doing. I can tell you what it tries to do ;-) An incoming mail (via pages@...) is [should be] stored as is in .../up/pages if it is an ordinary one part message torn into pieces and stored as several files in .../up/pages if it is a multipart message The parts are [should be] converted from QP | Base64 to 8-Bit files If there is a filename given within the multipart message it is used. Otherwise a filename is made up [which sometimes fails] I must admit that I didn't test it with more than my good old PINE program. There are some tiny differences between mailers. I thought it a useful idea for those who go online via modem in Germany where we are charged by the minute. Firing off a mail is usually quicker than establishing an ftp-connection. If there are more people interested we could spend some time for a thorough test. Arthur.Teschler(a)uni-giessen.de

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neues Mitglied fuer /gene/wg/familyg.html
by D. Selig 26 Jan '98

26 Jan '98

Dirk aus Aachen, dirk.tenhuendfeld(a)dialup.FH-Aachen.de, hat die "collection of private genealogy family pages" uebernommen; wofuer ich wahrlich dankbar bin - damit hat man ziemlich viel zu tun. Herzlich willkommen, Dirk. http://www.genealogy.com/gene/wg/familyg.html ist link von FAMILYG.HTM. Gruss, Dora

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Re: Österreich, Volunteers, usw.
by Charles Wardell 26 Jan '98

26 Jan '98

Gerhard, danke für die ausführliche Bemerkungen. Ich verstehe nicht ganz warum Du in einem Atemzug kritisierst daß eine Firma eine Gewerbeberechtigung hat und gleichzeiting meinst daß eine wissenschaftliche Arbeit in die Kategorie von "Schwarzarbeit" fällt ? Übrigens, nach meinem Wissenstand sind in österreich wissenschafliche Arbeiten aus der Gewerbeordnung ausgenommen. Ich bedauere, daß Du alles so negativ siehst -- aber auf deisem Gebiet hast Du sicherlich mehr Erfahrung als ich. Ich bin ein Neuling und habe bis jetzt noch nichts zu genealogy.com beigetragen -- also möchte ich nicht "mein Maul zu weit aufreissen" (urbritisch oder urösterreichisch?)! Wir alle habe sehr viel zu tun und diese Diskussion wird uns, glaube ich, kaum weiter bringen. Nochmals, danke für Deine Zeit und für die Stellungnahme. Herzliche Grüße, -- Charles Wardell A-2073 Schrattenthal 3 Tel/Fax: +43 (2946) 8325 GSM: +43 (664) 307-58-15 email: charles(a)infrasoft.co.at (MSN: cwardell COMPUSERVE: wardell)

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(Fwd) Re: U.S. National Archives Research
by W. Fred Rump 26 Jan '98

26 Jan '98

On the subject of commercial vendors. Mail like the below also arrives with some regularity. Since most offers are not specifically German genealogy I tell that this is not the place for it, but in some cases I ship them off to Rainer. Fred ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: DC Rsearch <DCRsearch(a)aol.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 22:21:32 EST To: fred(a)k2nesoft.com Subject: Re: U.S. National Archives Research Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Dear Fred: Research at the U.S. National Archives, Washington, DC I would like to be of assistance to anyone who would like material pertaining to their family genealogy. While engaging in my own personal genealogical research, I realize what an asset it is to be located near the primary National Archive that has original information no other archives have in the U.S. - I have obtained documents and information about members of my family tree from military records of the Revolutionary War, War of 1812, and Civil War, as well as a host of other primary sources at the National Archives, such as: Documents & Records U.S. Census, 1790-1920 Mortality Census Schedules, 1850-1880 (Federal) Military Service Records, 1775-1903 Military Pensions, 1775-1916 Pension Application Files of Remarried Widows Bounty Land Warrants for Revolutionary War Service Bounty Land Warrants for War of 1812 Service, 1815-1858 Registers of Enlistments in the U.S. Army, 1798-1914 Passenger & Immigration Ship Arrival Records, 1600s-1800s Passenger Lists, 1820-1954 (Customs & Immigrations) Passport Applications, 1791-1926 Land Records, 1800-1974 (in the public land states) List of North Carolina Land Grants in Tennessee, 1778-1791 Indian Records [More Categories] Documents & Records, Civil War --- Not only a good source of genealogical material, --- but an interesting timeperiod [Many Categories] Photographs - Civil War & Old West [Many Categories] -------------------------------------------------------- I can provide service to those who would like such information (copies of available original documents, records, or otherwise) at reasonable rates as I live in Washington, DC and have ready access to information in the U.S. National Archives, much of which is not available in county, state, or even regional national archives. There are no legal concerns about copyrighted material because the information in the National Archives is in the public domain for all the American people. After examining the many areas of resources available on my Webpage, could you be so kind as to put a link on your Webpage(s) to my Website at - www.impactvr.com/DCResearch/ ? Thank you for any consideration you may give. Michael Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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Re: http://www.genealogy.com/gene/reg/AUT/krainf-e.htm
by Charles Wardell 26 Jan '98

26 Jan '98

Fred, I agree with your comments - but look: this is Austria -- and the clocks tick a bit slower. I think it may be a bit of "political" problem; they are worried that inexact or misleading information might be published "somewhere", etc., etc. . . . and I suspect that the responsible persons are overwhelmed with the speed of developments on the web and don't know what to do about it (this is an "Amt" -- and decisions take a while). They are certainly not fast movers. I was assured that they were planning something themselves but I'm pretty sure that there's nothing in the pipeline yet. Anyway, the /krainf-e.htm is great; it's just that my name should be scratched (I go there quite often and I don't want to become a persona non grata). Best wishes, -- Charles Wardell A-2073 Schrattenthal 3 Tel/Fax: +43 (2946) 8325 GSM: +43 (664) 307-58-15 email: charles(a)infrasoft.co.at (MSN: cwardell COMPUSERVE: wardell)

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Re: Österreich
by Charles Wardell 26 Jan '98

26 Jan '98

Fred, Betreffend: >Eigentlich sollten links zu Information 'of commercial vendors' auch >dort von diesen Leuten bezahlt werden. Wir können ihnen also mit >der Besorgung der Kundschaft helfen aber sie müssen dann aber >für ihre eigenen Seiten irgendwo bezahlen. Das ist eben nur Recht. Ja ! Warum nicht ? Ich bin sicher, daß die Firmen auch zahlen würden um in genealogy.com zu sein. -- Charles Wardell A-2073 Schrattenthal 3 Tel/Fax: +43 (2946) 8325 GSM: +43 (664) 307-58-15 email: charles(a)infrasoft.co.at (MSN: cwardell COMPUSERVE: wardell)

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Re: Österreich, Volunteers, usw.
by Gerhard Marterer - Graz - Austria 26 Jan '98

26 Jan '98

Fred meinte wir sollen hier in den Pages weiterdiskutiere, ergaenzend zu seiner Mail, aus der Sicht des "Uroesterreichers" Details: Charles, Du schriebst u.a.: > Meine Hauptüberlegung ist organisorischer Natur (und die Antwort habe ich auch nicht). Richtig ist, dass es sicherlich Vereinfachungen gibt. Ganz sicher ist es aber unmoeglich, jedermann Permit am Server zu geben. Gerade im Net ist die Versuchung sehr gross, Mist zu bauen. Frage ruhig einmal Jimm oder Fred, wieviele negative Mails sie erhalten. Dazu kommt noch, dass wir hier in AT seit dem verlorenen Krieg (WW II ) sogenannte Verbotsgesetze haben. Wenn also hier z.B. unkontrolliert Nazi-Gedankengut eingeschleust wuerde, beschlagnahmt die Oe.-Staasanwaltschaft sofort den Server, mit der Garantie, dass der Gestalter solcher Seiten ein Gerichtsverfahren wegen "Wiederbetaetigung" -eben nach den Verbotsgesetzen am Hals hat, was bis zum Verlust der Staatsbuergerrechte und einer Ausweisung aus Oe. fuehren kann. > Ich denke, z.B., daß man sich mit Listen die Telefonnummern erhalten, > Probleme einhandelt. Da ist doch besser man zeigt zu einen online > Telefonbuch (in Österreich gibt es so was): > http://www.etb.at/ Der offizielle Telecomserver bietet nicht die vollen Routinen, die z.B. die Oe-Info CD beinhaltet. Der Hinweis auf den Server ist sinngemaess sogesehen ein Hinweis auf einen lahmen Gaul. Doch die vorgegebenen Einschraenkungen des Servers, sind durch Oe.-Gesetze bedingt, und die sind halt anders als in GB, ;-) und wir muessen damit leben. >Statt Ortverzeichnisse kann man z.B. zu Getty's Thesaurus of Geographic Names >http://www.ahip.getty.edu/tgn_browser/ ......................... Ob obiger Browser die Ortsnamen der Monarchie, die vielmals gewechselt haben, fuer den den Genealogen interessanten Zeitraum, also vor 1900 richtig wiedergibt, muss ich erst versuchen. Meist geben neuere Verzeichnisse keine guten Resultate, ich werde es checken. > Statt die Geschichte der Monarchie darzustellen, kann man zu einer > Enzyklopedie verzweigen, usw., usw. Ich habe mir eine Enzyklopedie auf CD gekauft, mit dem Ergebnis dass ich wieder meine alten Lexikas verwende, weil gerade alte Ausdruecke auf der CD nicht mehr genannt werden, nichteinmal die Hinweise, ob es sich bei dem gesuchten Wort um ein Lehn-wort, wenn ja aus welcher Sprache handelt. Aber das ist wichtig, weil es manchmal den weiteren Weg weisst. Also ich bin reumuetig wieder zum althergebrachten zurueckgekehrt. Zum Thema Geschichte: die Passagen die den Familienforscher interessieren sind nicht sehr umfangreich, wuerden aber um sie selbst aus Buechern zu erarbeiten, wochenlanges, so jedoch vermeidbares Ballast-lesen erfordern. Ich denke schon, dass diese Seiten sehr sinnvoll sind, vorallem die in der engl. Seitenversion, die Rieck ausgezeichnet gestaltet. Zusaetzlich gilt hier, dass je nach Richtung des voreilenden Gehorsams, viele der neu aufgelegten Geschichtsbuecher praktisch genealogisch wertlos sind. Charless Du meinst in einer weiteren Mail: >Ich habe zwar nie mit diesen Sachen einen Groschen verdient -- aber: ist >es wirklich nicht legitim für eine geleistete Arbeiten Geld zu verlangen ? >Wenn ich jemanden bitte, Infos für mich aus dem Patentamt zu besorgen >dann zahle ich auch etwas dafür. Ich kann anderseits selbst hingehen und >es selbst machen; das kostet "nur" Zeit ! >Ich glaube nicht, daß man ALLE kommerzielle Anbieter verdammen sollte. >Ich selbst habe probeweise eine Geburtsurkunde (Wales, 1867) von >Genealogy Research Associates (Monterey, CA) ausheben lassen. Es hat >zwar $80 gekostet aber es hat sehr gut funktioniert. >Wichtig ist nur genau erkennen zu können was etwas kostet und was gratis ist. >Ein Konsument sollte dann die Wahl haben. Meine Erlebnisse gehen genau in die andere Richtung. Es ist nicht einzusehen, warum fuer einen 10 Minuten dauernden Blick in ein Kirchenbuchinhaltsverzeichnis der Gegenwert des Lohnes eines Arbeiters im Ausmass von einer Woche zu bezahlen ist. Und genau den Aufwand der zu zahlenden Leistung, kann aus der Entfernung dann niemand beurteilen, trotz Auswahlmoeglichkeit. >Es wäre sogar SEHR interessant eine Liste von Leuten in Österreich zu >haben (Profis, Semi-Profis und Amateure) die bereit wären (entgeldlich) >kleine Recherchen zu machen. Charless Dein Optimismus in Ehren! Doch in Oesterreich gehen die Uhren etwas anders. Eine mir bekannte Sekretaerin schaltete in eine Sekondhandzeitung (Bazar oder sowas) ein Inserat, dass sie kleine Schreibarbeiten nebenbei uebernimmt. Sie wollte sich damit einen kleinen Nebenverdienst erwerben. Anstelle eines Auftrages kam nach einer Woche ein Brief von der Bezirksbehoerde mit einer Anzeige wegen "Schwarzarbeit" und mit beiliegenden Erlagschein, dieser ueber 3.000.- ATS ( Begruendung: ein Zusatzverdienst ist nur den bei der Behoerde angemeldeten und damit fuer ihren Verdienst auch steuer- und sozialversicherungs - Abgaben zahlenden Gewerbebetrieben erlaubt.) Dein Vorschlag wuerde also diese Forscher kerzengerade in die Arme der Behoerde treiben, zusaetzlich gibt es noch die dann faellig werdende Fremdenverkehrsabgabe (eine unter diesem Namen zu zahlende Abgabenart). Nun ich kann mir aber vorstellen, dass soetwas den sogenannten angeblich so serioesen geneal. "Firmen" recht gut passen wuerde. >Ich glaube kaum das es so viele "üble Geschäftemacher" gibt. Es gibt >vermutlich einige große Firmen (z.B. Broderbund) die ein recht gutes >Geschäft machen. Kleinbetriebe wie IHFF in Wien müssen wahrscheinlich >(??) uns überleben kämpfen. IHFF leistet sich trotz der damit verbundenen Kosten nicht umsonst eine Gewerbeberechtigung. Es fraegt sich nur, sind alle diese Firmen ohne die Gratiswerbung in den Pages unfaehig zu existieren, oder nutzen sie nur schamlos den "goodwill" der Amateure. Hier die Weichen anders zu stellen ist nicht meine Aufgabe, dies ist wenn es beabsichtig ist, sogenannte "Chefsache"! >Ich kenne niemanden der Genealogie "als nicht erlernbare Geheimwissenschaft" darstellt. >Schwarze Schafe gibt es in jeder Branche -- und ich bin natürlich auch >Deiner Meinung, daß dubiose, üble Geschäftemacher nicht unterstützt Nur: man sollte nicht alle in >den gleichen Topf werfen ! Nun, vor laengerer Zeit trat IHFF u.a. andere an mich heran, ihre Firmen in der AT Seite zu nennen, was geschehen ist. Blos kam von dieser Seite kein einziges Wort, was eine Veroeffentlichung / Aufwertung ermoeglicht haette. Geschaeftemachen, wichtigmachen, ohja, das und mitbestimmen wollen sie hier alle, einen Beitrag zur Hebung des Niveaus oder zu den Betriebskosten des Server zu leisten, ist anscheinend zuviel verlangt- oder mir nur nicht bekannt. Die Arbeitweise am Server kann ruhig so bleiben wie bisher, sie hat sich bewaehrt! Trotz der verschiedenen Meinungen, ein freundlicher Gruss zu Dir Charless, und zu den anderen. Gerhard.

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Re: http://www.genealogy.com/gene/reg/AUT/krainf-e.htm
by Charles Wardell 25 Jan '98

25 Jan '98

Oh, I agree. They are not masters of public relations -- but they are a very important source of reference -- so I just wanted to avoid aggravating the situation. Rgds, -- Charles Wardell A-2073 Schrattenthal 3 Tel/Fax: +43 (2946) 8325 GSM: +43 (664) 307-58-15 email: charles(a)infrasoft.co.at (MSN: cwardell COMPUSERVE: wardell)

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Re: Österreich
by W. Fred Rump 25 Jan '98

25 Jan '98

Also sprach Charles Wardell on 25 Jan 98 at 16:12 about Re: Österreich: (da diese Sache schon seine Probleme veranstalten kann, bringe ich diese Unterhaltung lieber in die ganze Gruppe) > Gerhard, > > Danke für die ausführliche Stellungnahme. > Ich sehe Deine Standpunkte ein -- aber mit: > > >O.K. , ein ja zu Links die eine unentgeltliche Weiterfuehrung bieten, > >aber ein NEIN zu Links die Genealogie als nicht erlernbare > >Geheimwissenschaft > >darstellen, um dann z.B. nur fuer einige Adressen aus der Telefon CD > >abzukassieren, und dieses NEIN ist bei mir "granithart", trotz der > >Wartung! Es koennten sich sonst ploetzlich Mitglieder dubioser Firmen, > >getarnt als die grossen Forscher, sich hier recht negativ (bremsend) > >betaetigen. > >Ich liege nur mit ueblen Geschaeftemachern auf Kollisionskurs, und das > >nehme ich an, das bist Du nicht! Warum sollte trotz der verschiedenen > >Anschauungen eine Zusammenarbeit, die ja einem gemeinsamen Ziel dient ( > >der Foerderung des geneal. Gedankens), nicht moeglich sein? > > .. habe ich ein Problem. > > Ich habe zwar nie mit diesen Sachen einen Groschen verdient -- aber: > ist es wirklich nicht legitim für eine geleistete Arbeiten Geld zu > verlangen ? > > Wenn ich jemanden bitte, Infos für mich aus dem Patentamt zu > besorgen dann zahle ich auch etwas dafür. Ich kann anderseits selbst > hingehen und es selbst machen; das kostet "nur" Zeit ! > > Ich glaube nicht, daß man ALLE kommerzielle Anbieter verdammen > sollte. Ich selbst habe probeweise eine Geburtsurkunde (Wales, 1867) > von Genealogy Research Associates (Monterey, CA) ausheben lassen. Es > hat zwar $80 gekostet aber es hat sehr gut funktioniert. > > Wichtig ist nur genau erkennen zu können was etwas kostet und was > gratis ist. Ein Konsument sollte dann die Wahl haben. > > Es wäre sogar SEHR interessant eine Liste von Leuten in Österreich > zu haben (Profis, Semi-Profis und Amateure) die bereit wären > (entgeldlich) kleine Recherchen zu machen. > > Ich glaube kaum das es so viele "üble Geschäftemacher" gibt. Es gibt > vermutlich einige große Firmen (z.B. Broderbund) die ein recht gutes > Geschäft machen. Kleinbetriebe wie IHFF in Wien müssen > wahrscheinlich (??) uns überleben kämpfen. > > Ich kenne niemanden der Genealogie "als nicht erlernbare > Geheimwissenschaft" darstellt. > Schwarze Schafe gibt es in jeder Branche -- und ich bin natürlich > auch Deiner Meinung, daß dubiose, üble Geschäftemacher nicht > unterstützt werden sollte. Nur: man sollte nicht alle in den > gleichen Topf werfen ! > > Herzliche Grüße aus Schrattenthal, > Charles > -- > Charles Wardell > A-2073 Schrattenthal 3 > Tel/Fax: +43 (2946) 8325 GSM: +43 (664) 307-58-15 > email: charles(a)infrasoft.co.at (MSN: cwardell COMPUSERVE: wardell) > Ich glaube nicht das sich jemand gegen kommerzielle Interessen stellt. Der Unterschied ist nur das wir (und das Internet im grossen ganzen) alle Arbeit gratis liefern. Trotzdem hat das auch seine Kosten. Sollte nun jemand nur seine Arbeit geschäftlich anbieten und bei uns nur seine Kunden suchen will, geht mir das auch etwas an den Kragen. Zum Gunste der Leser von genealogy.com kann ich wohl eine kurze und freie Erwähnung dulden aber auch nicht viel mehr. Eigentlich sollten links zu Information 'of commercial vendors' auch dort von diesen Leuten bezahlt werden. Wir können ihnen also mit der Besorgung der Kundschaft helfen aber sie müssen dann aber für ihre eigenen Seiten irgendwo bezahlen. Das ist eben nur Recht. Fred Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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Re: http://www.genealogy.com/gene/reg/AUT/krainf-e.htm
by Helmut H.AGENA, HH 25 Jan '98

25 Jan '98

It is strange, but it occured too during first steps of building the Ostfriesen pages with the Oldenburg genealogical society. These people are keen to have their own pages, but seem to know little about public relations. If such address or site is unknown what than is the reason they exist ? Helmut H. Agena, helmut.agena(a)metronet.de, Hamburg Tel.:606 71110 oder: HAgena1401(a)aol.com Projekt:Genealogie der Agena aus Ostfriesland welweit siehe Genealogie - Web - Seite: http://members.aol.com/HAgena1401/index.html ---------- > > > The subject page lists my e-mail at the bottom. Could the author > > delete this because last October I spoke to Hofrat Mag.Römer and he > > emphatically requested that "informal" information about the > > Staatsarchiv NOT be included in Web pages. They are setting up their > > own site and it would lead to confusion. I agreed. > > I am truly confused. What in the world is wrong with information? > Formal or otherwise? Public information "about" anything or anybody > does not belong to any one person or agency. By its very nature, > such data can be publicised anywhere without restrictions. > > Fred > > > Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred > 26 Warren St > Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or > 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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http://www.genealogy.com/gene/reg/AUT/krainf-e.htm
by Charles Wardell 25 Jan '98

25 Jan '98

The subject page lists my e-mail at the bottom. Could the author delete this because last October I spoke to Hofrat Mag.Römer and he emphatically requested that "informal" information about the Staatsarchiv NOT be included in Web pages. They are setting up their own site and it would lead to confusion. I agreed. I would be an embarrassment if my name were now associated with this (I think excellent) page. I have also noticed that the GERMAN equivalent points to: http://www.bawue.de/~hanacek/info/wienkr01.htm which no longer exists. Could the link be corrected with the right address (whatever that is) ? Thanks. -- Charles Wardell A-2073 Schrattenthal 3 Tel/Fax: +43 (2946) 8325 GSM: +43 (664) 307-58-15 email: charles(a)infrasoft.co.at (MSN: cwardell COMPUSERVE: wardell)

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Re: (Fwd) Volunteer help?
by Richard Heli 24 Jan '98

24 Jan '98

At 10:44 PM 1/23/98 -0500, W. Fred Rump wrote: > >These arrive with some regularity. Does anybody have any ideas how to >channel this a little better? most of these people don't have >"special" knowledge to run a regional page but they are willing to do >something. I just don't know what. Perhaps they should join the Help Team until such time as they do identify a region or topic that they wish to run? Rick

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volunteers
by W. Fred Rump 24 Jan '98

24 Jan '98

Below is the typical response I send out. Suggestions are welcome here too but I usually don't get any response back. Fred -------------------------------------------------- Hi, you offered to help on the German genealogy pages. What we are always looking for is to fill some of the holes or improve the existing pages. Typically this is the further development of the various regional pages. It must also be assumed that you have some special knowledge of such an area and a knowledge of German is a plus. I leave it up to you to suggest what you can do to improve what we have now. Since I don't know what it is you know or can do, it is tough for me to make such suggestions. Please write back if you can help under the above conditions. Fred -------------------------------------------------- Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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(Fwd) Volunteer help?
by W. Fred Rump 24 Jan '98

24 Jan '98

------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 20:43:51 -0500 From: Frank Falcon <harborff(a)gte.net> To: fred(a)k2nesoft.com Subject: Volunteer help? Hi Fred! My name is Toni Falcon and I'm from Muskegon, Michigan. I saw your posting on seeking volunteers and hopefully I maybe able to assist you on building and maintaining a homepage on German genealogy. I can do basically whatever you are interested in and I can maybe add ideas of my own then. Just let me know and I'll be happy to assist you! I have been working on genealogy for about he past 4-5years now and do have ancestors from Germany. I do have my own website with tons of space left on it! http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/9473 My email is: ladifalcon(a)hotmail.com Thank you for your time and hope to hear from you soon! Toni Falcon ======================== These arrive with some regularity. Does anybody have any ideas how to channel this a little better? most of these people don't have "special" knowledge to run a regional page but they are willing to do something. I just don't know what. Fred Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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Upload - Hessen
by e.winter＠fi.hibs.he.schule.de 24 Jan '98

24 Jan '98

Hallo, ich habe gerade in Giessen einen Upload vorgenommen in: /up/pages/... DDAMz.html Dom- und Dioezesanmuseum, Mainz DDAMzKA8413.html Benutzer- und Gebuehrenordnung DDAMzKA8509.html Familienforschung in kirchl. Archiven DDAMzKA8817.html Archiv-Nutzungsordnung mzlogo.gif Alle Dateien sollen ins Verzeichnis /reg/HES/hesarchive/ Da ich zum ersten Mal den Upload vorgenommen habe, bitte ich um Rueckmeldung, wenn es nicht funktioniert hat. Danke. Ciao, Ernst-Peter Winter

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webpages-l new member H.Flacker
by D. Selig 23 Jan '98

23 Jan '98

Neus Mitglied in webpages-l: Flacker(a)t-online.de, subscribed 22-Jan-98 Helmut Flacker, helps Rick with Donauschwaben pages Helmut, herzlich willkommen!! 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ASTAKA typo fix
by Jim Eggert 23 Jan '98

23 Jan '98

I've fixed a couple of minor typos in the page gene/lds/AST1-eh.html -- =Jim Eggert EggertJ(a)LL.mit.edu

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updated Swiss pages
by Seelentag Wolfhart KSSG_RO 23 Jan '98

23 Jan '98

Dear All, the Neuchatel society has changed name - here are the corrected pages : for /gene/reg/CH/ : http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/verein-d.htm http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/verein-e.htm http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/verein-f.htm http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/verein-i.htm http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/family-e.htm for /gene/reg/CH/kant/ : http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/neallg-e.htm for /gene/reg/CH/ver/ : http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/neinfo-e.htm Just for your information : similar to xland.html I have uploaded templates for cantonal pages : ktform-d.htm and ktform-e.htm (German and English version) - these are to stay on /tmp/up/pages/ (if nobody minds). Dear Rick, I have uploaded the slightly improved German version (some explanatory text on top) as ktform-D.htm (capital D) : could you, please, delete the "small d version" and rename D -> d ? Best regards to all - Wolf -------------- Wolf W. Seelentag, PhD, e-mail : wolf(a)swissmail.com Klinik fuer Radio-Onkologie, Kantonsspital, CH - 9007 St. Gallen, Switzerland Tel : +41-71-4942233 Fax : +41-71-4942893

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AW: webpages-l new member H.Flacker
by Seelentag Wolfhart KSSG_RO 23 Jan '98

23 Jan '98

... und wenn ich Rick nicht missverstanden habe, will er auch bei der Aargau-Seite helfen ;-)). Also auch von mir : herzlich willkommen - Wolf -------------- Wolf W. Seelentag, PhD, e-mail : wolf(a)swissmail.com Klinik fuer Radio-Onkologie, Kantonsspital, CH - 9007 St. Gallen, Switzerland Tel : +41-71-4942233 Fax : +41-71-4942893 >---------- >Von: D. Selig[SMTP:dselig@sd.id.ethz.ch] >Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Januar 1998 10:21 >An: webpages-l(a)genealogy.net >Betreff: webpages-l new member H.Flacker > >Neus Mitglied in webpages-l: > >Flacker(a)t-online.de, subscribed 22-Jan-98 >Helmut Flacker, helps Rick with Donauschwaben pages > >Helmut, herzlich willkommen!! >Dora

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(Fwd) Wyhl - private pages
by W. Fred Rump 20 Jan '98

20 Jan '98

------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: LLMAHS <LLMAHS(a)aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 06:52:04 EST To: fred(a)k2nesoft.com Subject: Wyhl Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Fred, My family came from this small town in Baden Germany. I am by no means a German expert. But I do have access to the town's genealogy book that list most if not all the relationships in this town as far back into the 1640s . There are errors. But it is most helpful. I have helped people find their families in it. If this is of any interest to this group. Also can you tell me how I would get my family listed in this group surnames ? My site is http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/m/i/Laura-L-Smith/ The German family lines that I am predominately follow are : 1) DIRR originating from WYHL, Baden-Wuettemberg, GER 2) SCHWENZER - originating from Eltmann, Bavaria, GER 3) HORNUNG - originating from Gross Kirchen, GER 4) REMPE - originating Natzungen, Nordrhein-Westfalen GER 5) REMPEN - originating Natzungen, Nordrhein-Westfalen GER 6) SINGLER - Unknown 7) SCHERF - originating Natzungen, Nordrhein-Westfalen GER I have 5000 people in the database but many more families names are mixed in this group. Thanks Laura Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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(Fwd) Homepage Familienforschung
by W. Fred Rump 20 Jan '98

20 Jan '98

------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 23:50:41 +0100 To: WebMaster(a)genealogy.net Subject: Homepage Familienforschung From: RKeszler(a)t-online.de (Rudolf Keszler) Habe eine ziemlich neue Homepage, die aber noch sehr nüchtern aussieht. http://home.t-online.de/home/rkeszler/ Beschäftige mich mit den Vorfahren aus Deutschland, Ungarn und Jugoslawien. Erfasse die Daten aus den Kirchenbüchern zweier ehemals deutschen Gemeinden in Ungarn. Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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Rheinland-Pfalz page
by Richard Heli 20 Jan '98

20 Jan '98

Hi, Helmut Flacker & I have prepared a German translation of the page at http://www.genealogy.com/gene/reg/RHE-PFA/rhein-p-d.html This is the intended final location of the page, but it has not been linked in yet. Your review comments are welcome. Rick

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[jonathan@desrosiers.on.ca: Regards to your Genealogical Web Page]
by Jim Eggert 19 Jan '98

19 Jan '98

Thanks for the feedback. In answer to your request, as far as I know, essentially no German civil records offices (Standesaemter) have web sites. Many German towns do have web sites, that often list the phone numbers and addresses of the Standesaemter, but that's usually as far as it goes. =Jim Eggert EggertJ(a)LL.mit.edu ------- Start of forwarded message ------- Return-Path: <jonathan(a)desrosiers.on.ca> From: "Jonathan Ratcliff" <jonathan(a)desrosiers.on.ca> To: <EggertJ(a)ll.mit.edu> Subject: Regards to your Genealogical Web Page Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 11:37:35 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD2017.A4EEEC20" X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD2017.A4EEEC20" Content-Length: 3802 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD2017.A4EEEC20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Sirs; I wish to send thanks to you for posting such a helpful web site on = German genealogical research meatheads. I do have a few problems that = your site has managed to bring up but can not find a way around it at = this time. These are not problems that your site has created but have = brought to my attention. Some of my problems is trying to find a contact for German = Government Historical Archives or Records on the internet. If I could be = able to find a Government Page that could lead me into locating more = information directly from the source the better. Your page has provided = good information that I never had before but now I need to get records = and information from the town records such as Birth records, Baptismal = Records, Death Records, and Parents and Siblings information. Here in = Canada most of our government agencies have a web site, but I can not = find similar in Germany. If you had a listing by town of web sites for = government agencies that people can go to, it will aid more people in = locating more information. If you have such a list, it would make it better for me to locate = some of my wife's ancestors history. You can forward such a list via = e-mail to me. I look forward to hearing from you soon. Thank You for your time, Jonathan Ratcliff - ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD2017.A4EEEC20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.2106.6"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Dear Sirs;</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>    I wish to send = thanks to you=20 for posting such a helpful web site on German genealogical research = meatheads. I=20 do have a few problems that your site has managed to bring up but can = not find a=20 way around it at this time. These are not problems that your site has = created=20 but have brought to my attention.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>    Some of my = problems is trying=20 to find a contact for German Government Historical Archives or Records = on the=20 internet. If I could be able to find a Government Page that could lead = me into=20 locating more information directly from the source the better. Your page = has=20 provided good information that I never had before but now I need to get = records=20 and information from the town records such as Birth records, Baptismal = Records,=20 Death Records, and Parents and Siblings information. Here in Canada most = of our=20 government agencies have a web site, but I can not find similar in = Germany. If=20 you had a listing by town of web sites for government agencies that = people can=20 go to, it will aid more people in locating more = information.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>    If you have such = a list, it=20 would make it better for me to locate some of my wife's ancestors = history. You=20 can forward such a list via e-mail to me. I look forward to hearing from = you=20 soon.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Thank You for your = time,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Jonathan Ratcliff</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV></BODY></HTML> - ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD2017.A4EEEC20-- ------- End of forwarded message -------

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Re: neues Mitglied + alte Masse
by Richard Heli 19 Jan '98

19 Jan '98

Hi, Welcome to Uwe. Nice job on the pages. Is Dora able to view these tables with Mosaic? At 01:50 PM 1/19/98 +0100, D. Selig wrote: >Hallo, >wir haben ein neues Mitglied in wegpages-l gekommen - es ist >Uwe Henz und er hat Tabellen zur Umsetzeng von alten Massen in heutige >Einheiten erstellt; >bitte anschauen und comments welcome :-) >http://www.genealogy.com/gene/misc/mas-1.htm und mas-3.htm I noted that in mas-3.htm in the top line there is a missing "]" after the words "General Help" that you may want to fix this on next revision. > >Ich glaube, das die files von Uwe in /gene/misc/ gut aufgehoben sind - >sonst kann ich es noch verschieben. Wenn es Uwe fertig hat, dann I would prefer to not add anything to misc, but instead put all new files into /gene/ghlp because it is too confusing to remember if a thing is in /gene/misc, /gene/ghlp or /www/ghlp, but it's up to you. >sollten wir es auch verlinken - von "general help" /gene/www/ghlp/tips.html ? Yes, I would suggest adding it to the table of contents under Miscellaneous Topics to follow Genealogische Zeichen und Abkürzungen / Genealogical Symbols and Abbreviations. I would suggest that the English text in the actual section read something like <a href="...">Historical Weights and Measures</a> (D, requires tables support) Rick >Viele Gruesse, Dora > >

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RE: neues Mitglied + alte Masse
by Holger Zierdt 19 Jan '98

19 Jan '98

-----Original Message----- From: D. Selig [SMTP:dselig@sd.id.ethz.ch] Sent: Monday, January 19, 1998 1:50 PM To: webpages-l(a)genealogy.net Subject: neues Mitglied + alte Masse Hallo, wir haben ein neues Mitglied in wegpages-l gekommen - es ist Uwe Henz und er hat Tabellen zur Umsetzeng von alten Massen in heutige Einheiten erstellt; bitte anschauen und comments welcome :-) http://www.genealogy.com/gene/misc/mas-1.htm und mas-3.htm Eine sehr gute und nuetzliche Idee. Ich werde, wo ich kann, ein paar fuer Hessen spezifische Dinge beizusteuern versuchen. Nur eine Kleinigkeit - das Kuerzel "hz" in der last-modified-Statuszeile benutze ich schon fuer meine Wenigkeit - koennte Uwe, um Verwechslungen vorzubeugen, auf etwas anderes umschwenken? Danke. Holger Holger Zierdt Muenchhausenstrasse 38 37085 Goettingen fon: +49 (551) 484082 fax: +49 (551) 396153 hzierdt(a)med.uni-goettingen.de hzierdt(a)metronet.de begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT M>)\^(A0.`0:0" `$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y 0```````#H``$(@ <` M& ```$E032Y-:6-R;W-O9G0@36%I;"Y.;W1E`#$(`0V ! `"`````@`"``$$ MD 8`R $```$````0`````P``, (````+``\.``````(!_P\!````3P`````` M``"!*Q^DOJ,0&9UN`-T!#U0"`````'=E8G!A9V5S+6Q 9V5N96%L;V=Y+FYE M= !33510`'=E8G!A9V5S+6Q 9V5N96%L;V=Y+FYE= ``'@`", $````%```` M4TU44 `````>``,P`0```!D```!W96)P86=E<RUL0&=E;F5A;&]G>2YN970` M`````P`5# $````#`/X/!@```!X``3 !````&P```"=W96)P86=E<RUL0&=E M;F5A;&]G>2YN970G```"`0LP`0```!X```!33510.E=%0E!!1T53+4Q 1T5. M14%,3T=9+DY%5 ````,``#D`````"P! .@$````>`/9?`0```!D```!W96)P M86=E<RUL0&=E;F5A;&]G>2YN970``````@'W7P$```!/`````````($K'Z2^ MHQ 9G6X`W0$/5 (`````=V5B<&%G97,M;$!G96YE86QO9WDN;F5T`%--5% ` M=V5B<&%G97,M;$!G96YE86QO9WDN;F5T```#`/U?`0````,`_U\``````@'V M#P$````$`````````IED`02 `0`@````4D4Z(&YE=65S($UI=&=L:65D("L@ M86QT92!-87-S90"*"@$%@ ,`#@```,X'`0`3``\`(@`/``$`*@$!(( #``X` M``#.!P$`$P`/`!\`%@`!`"X!`0F `0`A````-$1&1D,R,C5%,CDP1#$Q,4$W M144P,# P0S Q,3(S0T8`' <!`Y &`%@'```A````"P`"``$````+`",````` M``,`)@``````"P`I```````#`"X```````,`-@``````0 `Y`&#H=U'G)+T! M'@!P``$````@````4D4Z(&YE=65S($UI=&=L:65D("L@86QT92!-87-S90`" M`7$``0```!8````!O23G4/HEPO]/D.(1T:?N``# $2//```>`!X,`0````4` M``!33510`````!X`'PP!````'@```&AZ:65R9'1 ;65D+G5N:2UG;V5T=&EN M9V5N+F1E`````P`&$)22!Y(#``<0`P,``!X`"! !````90```"TM+2TM3U)) M1TE.04Q-15-304=%+2TM+2U&4D]-.D1314Q)1U--5% Z1%-%3$E'0%-$241% M5$A:0TA314Y4.DU/3D1!62Q*04Y505)9,3DL,3DY.#$Z-3!0351/.E=%0E!! M1T4``````@$)$ $````J! ``)@0```T&``!,6D9U_!!FBP,`"@!R8W!G,3(U M%C(`^ M@;@X0,#,QG0'W( *D`^,"`&-H"L#@<V5T," '$P*#`%#A$'9P<G$R M$7D.4 +RL1#95&%H`W$"@'T*@-D(R" ["6\.,#4"@ J!;'5C`% +`V,`00\% M,S\+IPJQ"H$84 +1$B(Q-L,9E0L#;&DS-AF!`V!6= 60!4 M'%)/!1!G#PN M!T %T >0<V%G97\<4QJV&^09@PLQ&^0"`&DP+3$T- % &W Q.(XP`4 ,T!_S M8B!&`V'*.@R#8A%@1"X&41MP`&<@6U--5% Z!F01,")A0'-D+FFC(X 10&AZ M+A#P71F5+R$@!F ","&'30(@9&%0>2P@2@!P=0K >9@@,3DF$":P.3@FH"0Z M-1%@4$TD5U1O,2&'=V5B"K =@',M)&Q '8!N90= ;V<<>2XIP!^@)&=U8FH? M'!$AARG "E $($UI=,9G&W )@" K( = ' #U!=!A!!!E'?\?"AMT#P;M&1Q( M!T )`"P9E /P!<#E$0!B"? @90N *_XRL=4H\&<I)2 =@&L#< > O0.@+3*0 M!" $`"IE52CPQ"!("?!Z('4ET#*0OS(B!4 4P#)@,6 R<7H(<&@@56T1,7H) M\"* =K\"("T#`Z M8P.@,K%H+!#N=!S +4 9E$4+@#H0+'!O,G(1(!P`,6!T M%B 9HV+_+' M,0!Q$/$*4 .@-K(%H&TT\G0$("CP;#W!+4 ZK"TI&9<`4'4# M(&@"0*!P.B\O=T!0+BFHI3W!+RFB+VT$`&-!L.LM<!_@+C_@;1GS/[ 18/LV MHT(2,T)C&L<_12XJ.M/K+4 1,&@%P&<Z,"U -K)?)E X81MP$/ M0$D!`&5= M(B!)$/ HX0L@9280=]9O,\!(46L`<&XF$#*BZPJP"L%F"E!R,.4=03)Q<'-P M97H&D$'11[%$]PN .F$R8&DW\#NQ2F$#H$YV.Y$7P#H0;BX9E$YW. $RH2U M2S>P"X <P&OO.S$U,27@!"!+2F$X@ ,@VB(C\"(SP@2!( M@-:!.+01A2Z$) M@"U3`9!T_TS .( #$$QB)E X<1F422+?/0$XX4I20W!.DU<)\$\W/S30"? " M,"U -B$F$'5MW"!6!) H\!#P<PI 3$'O33$%L#?P,F!U*:$QE3TP\F8RD'1W M3]$`< 2!!Y&75I ]`2CP;D]0;C\B`/\`<$]03>4PY0;P'8!*A1J[WQBF&:@O MZ!.Q&H W-E!;\]0@6@B19"IE33U!$/ 7/2$YH36@<BUR(#,X`1F4,S<P.#4@ M1[]5T ) 3#(+D!FC`A$Z+. 0-#D@*!=0,2D@-#0X(! X#E!CI&%XP60J,SDV M,35=U2/PO6 C0 > (X VL!_09V,'_BX!`&;^8: "(!% :/<;'R\?DAD[&:,5 M00!MP ```P`0$ `````#`!$0``````,`@!#_____0 `',& 'VNGF)+T!0 `( M,& 'VNGF)+T!"P`&@ @@!@``````P ```````$8``````X4````````#``B M"" &``````# ````````1@`````0A0````````,`"X (( 8``````, ````` M``!&`````%*%``"W#0``'@`K@ @@!@``````P ```````$8`````5(4```$` M```$````."XP``,`+( (( 8``````, ```````!&``````&%````````"P`U M@ @@!@``````P ```````$8`````#H4````````#`#: "" &``````# ```` M````1(a)`````1A0````````,`.( (( 8``````, ```````!&`````!B%```` M````'@!'@ @@!@``````P ```````$8`````-H4```$````!`````````!X` M2( (( 8``````, ```````!&`````#>%```!`````0`````````>`$F "" & M``````# ````````1@`````XA0```0````$`````````'@`]``$````%```` 24D4Z( `````#``TT_3<``,C) ` end

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new Swiss pages
by Seelentag Wolfhart KSSG_RO 19 Jan '98

19 Jan '98

Inzwischen habe ich das "offizielle" OK zu meinen Seiten "Stiftsarchiv St.Gallen" - hier sind sie : fuer /gene/reg/CH/kant/ : http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/sgstia-d.htm http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/sgstia-q.htm dazu die Bildchen http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/sg_stia.gif http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/sgstia-q.jpg http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/sgstia1.jpg http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/sgstia2.jpg http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/sgstia3.jpg und die angepassten Link-Seiten http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/sgallg-d.htm http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/sgallg-e.htm sowie fuer /gene/reg/CH/ : http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/news-m.htm Beste Gruesse - Wolf -------------- Wolf W. Seelentag, PhD, e-mail : wolf(a)swissmail.com Klinik fuer Radio-Onkologie, Kantonsspital, CH - 9007 St. Gallen, Switzerland Tel : +41-71-4942233 Fax : +41-71-4942893

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neues Mitglied + alte Masse
by D. Selig 19 Jan '98

19 Jan '98

Hallo, wir haben ein neues Mitglied in wegpages-l gekommen - es ist Uwe Henz und er hat Tabellen zur Umsetzeng von alten Massen in heutige Einheiten erstellt; bitte anschauen und comments welcome :-) http://www.genealogy.com/gene/misc/mas-1.htm und mas-3.htm Ich glaube, das die files von Uwe in /gene/misc/ gut aufgehoben sind - sonst kann ich es noch verschieben. Wenn es Uwe fertig hat, dann sollten wir es auch verlinken - von "general help" /gene/www/ghlp/tips.html ? Viele Gruesse, Dora

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Update VfFWK-Seiten
by Volker Milbrandt 19 Jan '98

19 Jan '98

Hallo, ich habe soeben nach ftp.genealogy.com folgende ergaenzte/korrigierte Seiten transferiert (fuer gene/reg/BAD-WUE): VfFWK-adr.html VfFWK-vortr.html Gruss Volker

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Upload
by Holger Zierdt 19 Jan '98

19 Jan '98

Hallo Dora, habe soeben einen Upload vorgenommen: http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/heslit.html ersetzt gene/reg/HES/heslit/heslit.html ; http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/gffrundalt.html ersetzt gene/reg/HES/gff/gffrundalt.html ; und http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/gffrund1.html bitte in gffrund.html umbenennen und gene/reg/HES/gff/gffrund.html damit ersetzen. Da es ein Problem beim Upload gab, bitte das file http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/gffrund.html loschen. Danke und Gruss Holger Holger Zierdt Muenchhausenstrasse 38 37085 Goettingen fon: +49 (551) 484082 fax: +49 (551) 396153 hzierdt(a)med.uni-goettingen.de hzierdt(a)metronet.de

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(Fwd) Verbesserung der Web-Seite
by W. Fred Rump 18 Jan '98

18 Jan '98

------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 17:22:15 +0100 From: "E.Holtkamp" <E.Holtkamp(a)gmx.de> To: fred(a)k2nesoft.com Subject: Verbesserung der Web-Seite Sehr geehrte Damen u. Herren! Herr Volker Neuhäuser kann wunderbare Web-Seiten machen. Adresse: Neuhaeuser(a)uni.de. Falls Sie Ahnenliesten aus Dortmund und Umgebung brauchen können Sie sich an mich wenden. Gruß Eva Holtkamp Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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updated Swiss page
by Seelentag Wolfhart KSSG_RO 18 Jan '98

18 Jan '98

Dear All, unfortunately too many people hope to find info on their 16th century ancestors in the telephone directory :-(( ! I had to word more clearly that this is not possible (just have a look at the example there) : http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/teldir-e.htm Could you, please, move this to /gene/reg/CH/ Thanks and best regards - Wolf -------------- Wolf W. Seelentag, PhD, e-mail : wolf(a)swissmail.com Klinik fuer Radio-Onkologie, Kantonsspital, CH - 9007 St. Gallen, Switzerland Tel : +41-71-4942233 Fax : +41-71-4942893

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Oberdeutsche Einwanderung in Schweden
by Seelentag Wolfhart KSSG_RO 18 Jan '98

18 Jan '98

Aus dem "Rundbrief" des Bayerischen Landesvereins : -------------------- Zu Ihrer Information Date: 8 Jan 1998 21:03:17 To: BLF(a)rusch.m.shuttle.de From: Christina Dalhede <echidalh(a)econhist.gu.se> Subject: Arbeitskreis Internet Sehr geehrter Herr Rudolf Schmid, Frau Heidi Hoechstetter-Mueller habe mich gebeten, Ihnen meine e-Mail-Adresse zu schicken. Ich habe uebrigens auch eine eigene Web-Seite, wo ich meine Publikationen und Forschungsprojekte dargestellt habe. Ich wohne in Goeteborg in Schweden, habe aber an der Universitaet Augsburg promoviert. Ich habe u.a. Oberdeutsche Einwanderer in Schweden untersucht, und zwar in der Fruehen Neuzeit. Mit freundlichen Gruessen, Ihre Christina Dalhede Dr. phil. Christina Dalhede Ekonomisk-historiska institutionen Goeteborgs Universitet Besuchsadresse: Skanstorget 18 Postadresse: Box 720 411 22 Goeteborg, SE 405 30 Goeteborg E-mail: echidalh(a)econhist.gu.se Web-Seite: http://www.econhist.gu.se/internetDalhedesvensk.html http://www.econhist.gu.se/internetDalhedetysk.html --------- Antwort auf meine Frage nach Verfuegbarkeit der Veroeffentlichungen: Sehr geehrter Herr Schmid, Im Scripta Mercaturae Verlag, Am roten Berg 5-9, D-555 65 St. Katharinen Tel.06706-8800, ist mein Buch Zum europaeischen Ochsenhandel: das Beispiel Augsburg 1560 und 1578 erschienen, so also jetzt bald das Buch Augsburg und Schweden in der Fruehen Neuzeit. Europaeische Beziehungen und soziale Verflechtungen. Studien zu Konfession, Handel und Bergwerk. Im selben Verlag erscheinen jaehrlich Scripta Mercaturae. Zeitschrift fuer Wirtschafts- und Sozialgeschichte, worin ich im Band 1990/1-2 einen Beitrag hatte, Zur Erfoschung des Augsburger Metzgerhandwerks im 16. Jahrhunderts..... Im kommenden Band dieser Zeitschrift habe ich auch einen Beitrag ueber Goeteborg und Europa im 17. JAhrhundert.... Der Beitrag im Jahrbuch fuer Bayerisch-Schwaebische Geschichte 1995. Beitraege und Berichte. Augsburger Beitraege zur Landesgeschichte Bayerisch-Schwabens. Band 6. Reihe 7 der Veroeffentlichungen der Schwaebischen Forschungsgemeinschaft....gedr. 1996, ist wohl entweder ueber die Foschungsstelle in Augsburg (Alter Postweg, im selben HAus wie Bukowinainstitut, nicht weit von der Uni Augsburg) oder am Jan Thorbecke Verlag Sigmaringen erhaeltlich. Leider sind keine meine Buecher ueber Internet erhaeltlich, nur meine Web-Seiten mit den Angaben saemtlicher meiner Veroeffentlichungen. Falls Sie auch fuer die schwedischen Titeln eine Interesse haben, kann ich Ihnen die genaue Angaben zu den Verlagen spaeter erzaehlen. Mit freundlichen Gruessen, Ihre Christina Dalhede ---------- -------------- Wolf W. Seelentag, PhD, e-mail : wolf(a)swissmail.com Klinik fuer Radio-Onkologie, Kantonsspital, CH - 9007 St. Gallen, Switzerland Tel : +41-71-4942233 Fax : +41-71-4942893

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updated Swiss pages
by Seelentag Wolfhart KSSG_RO 16 Jan '98

16 Jan '98

Dear All, I have just sent a couple of pages with some corrections for /gene/reg/CH/kant/...: http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/sgwart-m.htm http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/tiallg-e.htm Thanks and best regards - Wolf -------------- Wolf W. Seelentag, PhD, e-mail : wolf(a)swissmail.com Klinik fuer Radio-Onkologie, Kantonsspital, CH - 9007 St. Gallen, Switzerland Tel : +41-71-4942233 Fax : +41-71-4942893

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WG: Grock
by Seelentag Wolfhart KSSG_RO 16 Jan '98

16 Jan '98

Have we got a page on clowns' genealogies yet ? Or can anyone help this person otherwise ? Thanks for your consideration - Wolf -------------- Wolf W. Seelentag, PhD, e-mail : wolf(a)swissmail.com Klinik fuer Radio-Onkologie, Kantonsspital, CH - 9007 St. Gallen, Switzerland Tel : +41-71-4942233 Fax : +41-71-4942893 >---------- >Von: ZOZ Tek[SMTP:ZOZTek@aol.com] >Gesendet: Freitag, 16. Januar 1998 16:48 >An: wolf(a)swissmail.com >Betreff: Grock > >Hello, my name is John Szostek, I am a professor of theatre at Loyola U. in >Chicago, IL. I am researching the clown "Grock." I understand a film was made >of his performances in 1931. It was a German film done in Berlin. Might you >know how I might find an organization or person who would have this film? > >Thank you. > >John Szostek >

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(Fwd) Genealogie - Freiwillige
by W. Fred Rump 16 Jan '98

16 Jan '98

------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:31:00 +0100 From: meiboom <meiboom(a)zfn.uni-bremen.de> To: fred(a)k2nesoft.com Subject: Genealogie - Freiwillige Hi, Fred. Vielleicht kann ich Eure Arbeit unterstützen. Meine Hal-Großtante hat sich sehr intensiv mit unserer Familiengeschichte mütterlicherseits beschäftigt, diese Linie lässt sich bis gegen 1600 zurückverfolgen (Asendorf aus Asen-Ötzen in Niedersachsen. Falls Du Interesse an den Informationen oder evtl. Urkunden-Kopien hast, laß es mich bitte wissen. Viele Grüsse Bernd Schaefer =========================== Vieleicht möchte jemand hier antworten? Vieleicht kann hier Hilfe für Niedersachsen gesucht werden? Fred Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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(Fwd) Private Family Pages Site
by W. Fred Rump 15 Jan '98

15 Jan '98

------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: Roger Cramer <rrcramer(a)midlandpaper.com> To: "'webmaster(a)genealogy.net'" <webmaster(a)genealogy.net> Subject: Private Family Pages Site Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:52:09 -0600 Would like to post my surnames on your German private family pages site along with a link to my web site. All these names originated in Germany and immigrated to America. MATTER / MOTTER immigrated in 1751 to PA CRAMER / KRAMER immigrated in 1800's SHILLING immigrated in 1830's to MD LIGHT immigrated in 1700's to PA HEPFER immigrated to PA BEARMAN immigrated to IL SMELTZER immigrated to PA HOVERLAND immigrated to Canada> NY> IL Roger and Sue Cramer's Home Page rogercubs(a)aol.com http://members.aol.com/rogercubs/index.html Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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Re: news.html - new link to CH-news?
by Richard Heli 14 Jan '98

14 Jan '98

At 10:40 AM 1/14/98 +0100, you wrote: >Wolf hat mir folgendes fuer webpages-l geschickt. Bitte dazu >Kommentare. >Gruss, Dora > >----- Begin Included Message ----- >> >>Inzwischen ist der Eintrag in news.html, dass es eigene "Swiss News" >>gibt, vom "Start-Bildschirm" verschwunden, wenn man die News >>aufruft. Wer also regelmaessig dort nachschaut (und deswegen nicht scrollt), >>wird vielleicht neue CH-Seiten verpassen. >> >>Koennte man im Titel der "allgemeinen" news page (/gene/news.html) >>(direkt unter dem Hinweis auf die Subscriptions-Moeglichkeit) einen >>kurzen Hinweis bringen, wie >> >>"News on the <a href="/gene/reg/CH/news-m.htm">Switzerland</a> >>pages are announced on a separate page" ? Sounds OK to me. It would be nice if this listing would also list the date of the last update to the Swiss News. >> >>Oder vielleich davor (wenn das nicht zu unbescheiden ist) - denn >>im Subscriptionsangebot sind die Schweizer Seiten ja dann auch >>enthalten : dann muesste der Text so umformuliert werden, dass >>man ihn nicht so verstehen kann, dass die Subscription sich >>nur auf CH bezieht. >>--- >> >----- End Included Message ----- > > >

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news.html - new link to CH-news?
by D. Selig 14 Jan '98

14 Jan '98

Wolf hat mir folgendes fuer webpages-l geschickt. Bitte dazu Kommentare. Gruss, Dora ----- Begin Included Message ----- > >Inzwischen ist der Eintrag in news.html, dass es eigene "Swiss News" >gibt, vom "Start-Bildschirm" verschwunden, wenn man die News >aufruft. Wer also regelmaessig dort nachschaut (und deswegen nicht scrollt), >wird vielleicht neue CH-Seiten verpassen. > >Koennte man im Titel der "allgemeinen" news page (/gene/news.html) >(direkt unter dem Hinweis auf die Subscriptions-Moeglichkeit) einen >kurzen Hinweis bringen, wie > >"News on the <a href="/gene/reg/CH/news-m.htm">Switzerland</a> >pages are announced on a separate page" ? > >Oder vielleich davor (wenn das nicht zu unbescheiden ist) - denn >im Subscriptionsangebot sind die Schweizer Seiten ja dann auch >enthalten : dann muesste der Text so umformuliert werden, dass >man ihn nicht so verstehen kann, dass die Subscription sich >nur auf CH bezieht. >--- > ----- End Included Message -----

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Sonderzeichen in HTML (diacritical marcs)
by D. Selig 14 Jan '98

14 Jan '98

Vielleicht auch fuer einige von uns interessant? Gruss, Dora ----- Begin Included Message -----

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Re: Films ?????
by e.winter＠fi.hibs.he.schule.de 14 Jan '98

14 Jan '98

message: Films ????? date : 12.01.98 - 03:54 OWL> From: Richard Heli <heli(a)best.com> OWL> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:54:14 -0800 (PST) OWL> OWL> Would Jim Eggert care to reply? I believe this is in OWL> reference to the ASTAKA pages. OWL> OWL> Rick OWL> OWL> >From: JDFritsche <JDFritsche(a)aol.com> OWL> >Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:22:15 EST OWL> >... OWL> >under what was labeled Film 1799879 and 1799880. I OWL> >could not find how to access the data or what the fim OWL> >... Das erinnert mich an Papier-Kopien, die von Filmen der Mormonen gezogen wurden. Ciao, Ernst-Peter

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updated Niedersachsen page
by Jens-Kaufmann＠t-online.de 13 Jan '98

13 Jan '98

Hallo, habe die korrigierte Niedersachsen-Seite http://www.genealogy.com/gene/reg/NSAC/nsac-d.html unter http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/nsac-d.html abgelegt und bitte Euch, diese zu verschieben. Ich hoffe, es ist so in Ordnung. viele Grüße, Jens

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New/updated Swiss pages
by Seelentag Wolfhart KSSG_RO 13 Jan '98

13 Jan '98

Dear All, I have just sent for gene/reg/CH/ : http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/news-m.htm for /gene/reg/CH/kant/ : http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/beallg-e.htm http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/bepass-e.htm Best regards - Wolf ---------------------------- Just for your information : Erich Iseli and SwissGen are working on a "Swiss Surname Dictionary" - sort of a query page, but with volunteers giving at least basic answers for any reasonable question. If you want to have a look at the draft page : http://iseli.simplenet.com/ch-names/ The link from SwissGen will be on (draft only so far : example to be added) http://www.eye.ch/swissgen/famnam-m.htm Any comments welcome !! -------------- Wolf W. Seelentag, PhD, e-mail : wolf(a)swissmail.com Klinik fuer Radio-Onkologie, Kantonsspital, CH - 9007 St. Gallen, Switzerland Tel : +41-71-4942233 Fax : +41-71-4942893

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RE: Sonderzeichen in HTML (diacritical marcs)
by Holger Zierdt 13 Jan '98

13 Jan '98

-----Original Message----- From: D. Selig [SMTP:dselig@sd.id.ethz.ch] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 1998 8:55 AM To: webpages-l(a)genealogy.net Subject: Sonderzeichen in HTML (diacritical marcs) Vielleicht auch fuer einige von uns interessant? Gruss, Dora ----- Begin Included Message ----- ... hat mir eine HTML-Seite gegeben, die einige "&...;" Codes enthalt, die aber leider auch nur die Zeichen des 'lateinischen' Schriftraumes umfassen (ISO 8559). Die einzige mir bekannte Moeglichkeit, sprachraumspezifische Sonderzeichen zu verwenden, die nicht im ISO 8559 enthalten sind, sind entsprechende Fonts. Wir haben hier bei uns im Institut einen russischen und einen tamilischen Gast- wissenschaftler. Die lesen ihre "Heimatseiten" sowohl mit russischen als auch tamilischen Zeichen, die ich im Windows- oder Macintosh-System als Fonts installiert habe. Die dazu gehoerigen Zeichsaetze lassen sich sowohl unter Netscape als auch unter MSIE einstellen. 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Fwd: (Re:) Sonderzeichen in HTML (diacritical marcs)
by grund＠pnwe.siemens.de 13 Jan '98

13 Jan '98

Hallo Dora, Ihre Unsicherheit ob und wenn ja wie tschechische Buchstaben in HTML darzu- stellen sind hat mich veranlaßt, bei Kollegen, die öfters mit HTML zu tun haben nachzufragen. Einer hat mir eine HTML-Seite gegeben, die einige "&...;" Codes enthält, die aber leider auch nur die Zeichen des 'lateinischen' Schriftraumes umfassen (ISO 8559). Am Ende stand aber die email-Adresse des Verfassers, bei dem ich gleich nachgefragt habe. Die Antwort möchte ich Ihnen nicht vorenthalten: > From muenz(a)compuserve.com Tue Jan 13 06:29:46 1998 > Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 00:27:04 -0500 > From: Stefan Muenz <muenz(a)compuserve.com> > Subject: Sonderzeichen in HTML (diacritical marcs) > To: Rainer.Grund(a)pnwe.siemens.de > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Content-Disposition: inline > > Hallo Rainer, > > > ... viele, die sich mit der Familienforschung auf dem Gebiet des ehemaligen > > Ostblocks befassen und darüber Webseiten gestalten, benötigen einem z.B. > > tschechischen Zeichensatz. > > Können Sie mir mitteilen, ob das überhaupt möglich ist, und wenn ja, wie das > > geht, oder wo diese Infos im WEB stehen. > > Mittlerweile hat sich da einiges getan. Es gibt neue Möglichkeiten, um > andere Zeichensätze oder gar beliebige Zeichen in HTML einzubinden. Aber > dazu sind immer Schriftarten erforderlich, die solche Zeichen darstellen > koennen, und da haperts noch. Netscape und Microsoft bieten zwar bereits > Loesungen an, aber das steckt alles noch in den Kinderschuhen. > > Fazit: bitte noch ein wenig warten - all diese Sachen kommen in HTML und > den naechsten Browser-Versionen. In SELFHTML 7 wird es ausfuerhliche Infos > zu alledem geben. Einfach noch ein halbes oder ein Jahr warten, dann wird > all das realisierbar sein. > > Eine bessere Antwort hab ich leider nicht, aber immerhin - besser als: "in > der Richtung tut sich nix". In der Richtung tut sich eine Menge. > > Infos im WWW gibt's z.B unter http://www.bitstream.com/ > > Viele Gruesse > Stefan Muenz ----- End Included Message -----

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Re: altavista translation service
by Richard Heli 12 Jan '98

12 Jan '98

Ha ha ha! I tried translating the German Elsass page to English. "Ober Elsass" became "waiter Elsass". :) Rick At 09:55 AM 1/12/98 +0100, D. Selig wrote: > >Wer heute noch nichts zu lachen hatte und sich einen Ueberblick ueber die >Qualitaet automatischer Uebersetzungssoftware verschaffen moechte, geht zu: > >http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/ > >Zum ausprobieren irgendeine Webpage mit genuegend Text eingeben und los gehts. > >Gruss, Dora > >

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Films ?????
by Richard Heli 12 Jan '98

12 Jan '98

Would Jim Eggert care to reply? I believe this is in reference to the ASTAKA pages. Rick >From: JDFritsche <JDFritsche(a)aol.com> >Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:22:15 EST >To: webmaster(a)genealogy.net >Subject: Films ????? >Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) > >I used your index to find "Fritsche" and found it under what was labeled Film >1799879 and 1799880. I could not find how to access the data or what the fim >number related to. Seems that there should be an explanation of how to access. >Maybe I missed it but I tried every thing I could think of. > >JDFritsche(a)aol.com > >

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RE: altavista translation service
by Holger Zierdt 12 Jan '98

12 Jan '98

-----Original Message----- From: D. Selig [SMTP:dselig@sd.id.ethz.ch] Sent: Monday, January 12, 1998 9:56 AM To: webpages-l(a)genealogy.net Subject: altavista translation service Wer heute noch nichts zu lachen hatte und sich einen Ueberblick ueber die Qualitaet automatischer Uebersetzungssoftware verschaffen moechte, geht zu: http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/ Zum ausprobieren irgendeine Webpage mit genuegend Text eingeben und los gehts. Gruss, Dora Klasse, ich hab das mal mit der Hessen-Homepage ausprobiert. Aus Siegfried Neuhaeuser wird "Siegfried of new houses", aus Schaumburg wird "foam castle" und aus Grossen-Buseck wird "large bus hit a corner"... Klappt doch alles, oder? :-)) Holger begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT M>)\^(@\)`0:0" `$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y 0```````#H``$(@ <` M& ```$E032Y-:6-R;W-O9G0@36%I;"Y.;W1E`#$(`0V ! `"`````@`"``$$ MD 8`R $```$````0`````P``, (````+``\.``````(!_P\!````3P`````` M``"!*Q^DOJ,0&9UN`-T!#U0"`````'=E8G!A9V5S+6Q 9V5N96%L;V=Y+FYE M= !33510`'=E8G!A9V5S+6Q 9V5N96%L;V=Y+FYE= ``'@`", $````%```` M4TU44 `````>``,P`0```!D```!W96)P86=E<RUL0&=E;F5A;&]G>2YN970` M`````P`5# $````#`/X/!@```!X``3 !````&P```"=W96)P86=E<RUL0&=E M;F5A;&]G>2YN970G```"`0LP`0```!X```!33510.E=%0E!!1T53+4Q 1T5. M14%,3T=9+DY%5 ````,``#D`````"P! .@$````>`/9?`0```!D```!W96)P M86=E<RUL0&=E;F5A;&]G>2YN970``````@'W7P$```!/`````````($K'Z2^ MHQ 9G6X`W0$/5 (`````=V5B<&%G97,M;$!G96YE86QO9WDN;F5T`%--5% ` M=V5B<&%G97,M;$!G96YE86QO9WDN;F5T```#`/U?`0````,`_U\``````@'V M#P$````$`````````IED`02 `0`B````4D4Z(&%L=&%V:7-T82!T<F%N<VQA M=&EO;B!S97)V:6-E`)H,`06 `P`.````S@<!``P`"@`M``H``0`D`0$@@ ,` M#@```,X'`0`,``H`*@`#``$`&@$!"8 !`"$```!&-D0S-3DV.#,U.$)$,3$Q M03=%13 P,#!#,#$Q,C-#1@`-!P$#D 8`D 8``"$````+``(``0````L`(P`` M`````P`F```````+`"D```````,`+@```````P`V``````! `#D`0(P`QCX? MO0$>`' ``0```"(```!213H@86QT879I<W1A('1R86YS;&%T:6]N('-E<G9I M8V4````"`7$``0```!8````!O1\^Q8%H6=/WBS41T:?N``# $2//```>`!X, M`0````4```!33510`````!X`'PP!````'@```&AZ:65R9'1 ;65D+G5N:2UG M;V5T=&EN9V5N+F1E`````P`&$!K0W\H#``<05@(``!X`"! !````90```"TM M+2TM3U))1TE.04Q-15-304=%+2TM+2U&4D]-.D1314Q)1U--5% Z1%-%3$E' M0%-$241%5$A:0TA314Y4.DU/3D1!62Q*04Y505)9,3(L,3DY.#DZ-39!351/ M.E=%0E!!1T4``````@$)$ $```!?`P``6P,``*,$``!,6D9U/%ZNC'<`"@$# M`?<@`J0#XP(`</!R<3(@!Q,"@P!0#O:$8V@*P'-E=# /MB9]"H (R" ["6\R M->8U`H *@75C`% +`PM@0&YG,3 S,PND,8XV"J(*A!3Q:3,V`4!9#W!O= 60 M!4 M%[)//0409PN !T %T >0<V'\9V47LQ86%T07$0L3%T3!`@!I+3$T- % M%M X,3@P`4 ,T!M38B J1@-A.@R#8A%P1"X#!E$6T&<@6U--5!A0.F010!W! M0'-DC"YI'N 14&AZ+A$`OET6%1R !F ",!SG30(@0&1A>2P@2@!P=2$*P'D@ M,3(A<#$Y@#DX(#DZ-38/L!)-'[=4;QSG=V5B0PJP&.!S+6Q &.!NPF4'0&]G M>2XE(!L`\1_'=6)J%W$<YP= `9#&=@0``9 @='(`<0M@5'1I`B @$4!R)Z!C M_F497QIJ%M05%1!A$&(,`1<6(PKC"H!7!) @:&7B=1=@(&YO$0`MP"D`Q&AT M!"!Z=2 +8!$`[PGP+6 H8"VA=2$P*+ N,>P@90N +P%5)& $D )@S2D`:R^ M,)(@9 B0%A3^42' %M !D!%0)U MD -Q_RAP!/ M< 7 ,(,102Z0%3"U!!!O M`8!W"L ML'8ST;\1`0$@+P$$8 60+E!E(7"_&. N4"Z!'. 6)PJ!8P!!!G4# M("Y0=' Z+R^.8@&@'; ;('-H+B=G;BXQD!@P`9!L'W #<"\?-Y$!0#?@+%46 M%%IU;34RL7,7,6((D2\!:7+W)0$!`# Q("TP)',UL#)@FS9!(;!E//(CD&5X M!4#_,"$8X#"@`Z OD@D`!" V4J1S+BQK1W(\$',A<+L=8 6P83<Y*:HW%DL+ M8/\$$#8A+^(1$!R (4 $( # 9P,@/@($@2!(&*$)\"U:2 -P93VS/ AT0)5! M]SP0!@`(D&<#4 B0+[ 'P'YU$1 M@"C!)$ \T"^P(F](B#2 +< 'T6@(8!% M<[XB(7 \`08`$0$[T&((<*YG%A1)U (083O@8T1 \'1L92(O@TO207! $'U& M4D))@3$!2=0+8#SA('M,< 0@:#X1)^ %H24@<JPB+E& 0\=P!3%D+>(/!T!. M`$&Q!'(_(#HMK"DI-MI&D&P8X'(W-Q<7%S;:$@$`5R ``P`0$ `````#`!$0 M``````,`@!#_____0 `',("/AU8^'[T!0 `(,("/AU8^'[T!"P`&@ @@!@`` M````P ```````$8``````X4````````#``B "" &``````# ````````1@`` M```0A0````````,`"X (( 8``````, ```````!&`````%*%``"W#0``'@`K M@ @@!@``````P ```````$8`````5(4```$````$````."XP``,`+( (( 8` M`````, ```````!&``````&%````````"P`U@ @@!@``````P ```````$8` M````#H4````````#`#: "" &``````# ````````1@`````1A0````````,` M.( (( 8``````, ```````!&`````!B%````````'@!'@ @@!@``````P `` M`````$8`````-H4```$````!`````````!X`2( (( 8``````, ```````!& M`````#>%```!`````0`````````>`$F "" &``````# ````````1@`````X MA0```0````$`````````'@`]``$````%````4D4Z( `````#``TT_3<``(%X ` end

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altavista translation service
by D. Selig 12 Jan '98

12 Jan '98

Wer heute noch nichts zu lachen hatte und sich einen Ueberblick ueber die Qualitaet automatischer Uebersetzungssoftware verschaffen moechte, geht zu: http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/ Zum ausprobieren irgendeine Webpage mit genuegend Text eingeben und los gehts. Gruss, Dora

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(Fwd) Private Homepage
by W. Fred Rump 11 Jan '98

11 Jan '98

------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 21:47:28 +0100 To: WebMaster(a)genealogy.net Subject: Private Homepage From: Karl.Wuellenweber(a)t-online.de Karl Wuellenweber Heisterbacher Straße 110 53332 Bornheim Telefon (und Fax):02222-8533 E-Mail: Karl.Wuellenweber(a)t-online.de 10.01.1998 An Genealogy-Net. Ich habe eine private Homepage eingerichtet, in der ich die Ergebnisse der Forschungen nach meinen Vorfahren und denen meiner Frau vorstelle. Wenn sie die Namen und Daten interessieren, waehlen Sie bitte im Internet: http://home.t-online.de/home/Karl.Wuellenweber@t-online.de Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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(Fwd) Lipskey Family genealogical page - URL
by W. Fred Rump 10 Jan '98

10 Jan '98

------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 02:08:35 +0100 From: "Albert E. F. LIPSKEY B.A. M.A." <alipskey(a)rz-online.de> Reply-to: biber(a)rz-online.de Organization: L.i.A. am Mons-Tabor-Gymnasium,56410 Montabaur,Germany To: webmaster(a)genealogy.net Subject: Lipskey Family genealogical page - URL URL <http://home.rhein-zeitung.de/~alipskey/prussia.htm> Lipskey Family genealogy page Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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Re: Private Familienseiten
by W. Fred Rump 10 Jan '98

10 Jan '98

Also sprach Günter Hansen on 9 Jan 98 at 22:27 about Re: Private Familienseiten: > Günter Hansen schrieb am 22.12.1997: > > > > Hi, > > > > unter der Webadresse > > > > http://www.toppoint.de/~guenter/ > > > > habe ich heute Familien aus Sachsen-Anhalt, Niedersachsen, > > Schleswig-Holstein, Bayern, Baden-Wuerttemberg und Thueringen > > veroeffentlicht. > > > > Guenter.Hansen(a)mail.in-kiel.de > > Gibt es Gruende, warum meine Webadresse nicht aufgenommen wird? > Nein, nein. Überhaupt nicht. Das muß bloß erst gewusst sein und dann in die privaten Seiten eingerichted werden. Das geht nicht alles von heut auf morgen. Fred Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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Re: Upload
by GUnger＠t-online.de 07 Jan '98

07 Jan '98

At 17:18 06.01.98 +0100, you wrote: >Lieber Guenther, nur eine Bemerkung: >> fuer: /gene/reg/BRG/ >> http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/bb-d.html >> als Ersatz fuer brand.htm = bitte Datei loeschen. Daten wurden integriert >Arthur hat vergessen, den Link von ger1871.htm zu aendern - jetzt fuehrt er ins >Nirwana! Das sollten wir moeglichst bald aendern! >Dazu noch DANKE fuer die viele Arbeit! >Gruss, Dora Hallo Dora, Ich habe gerade folgende Dateien upgeloadet: /gene/gene/tmp/up/pages/ger1871.html /gene/gene/tmp/up/pages/ger1990.html /gene/gene/tmp/up/pages/news.html Damit sollte alles wieder aktuell sein. Bitte in die entsprechenden Verzeichnisse verschieben. Danke und Gruss Guenther

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Neue pages für VFFOW
by flade 07 Jan '98

07 Jan '98

Neue bzw. geaenderte VFFOW-Seiten auf: http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/vffow.htm http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/vffowedv.htm http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/vffow.gif http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/vffowkl.gif http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/qms.txt http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/sonder.txt bitte nach /gene/vereine/VFFOW/ schieben und die dort befindlichen Files alle vorher loeschen. Happy New Year Dietrich Flade

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team.html
by D. Selig 07 Jan '98

07 Jan '98

Habe in http://www.genealogy.com/gene/www/abt/team.html Robert Weinland dazugegeben (ist fuer Lothringen zustaendig). Falls noch jemand von webpages in dieser Wev-Seite gelistet sein moechte, bitte sagen oder selber machen und uploaden. Viele Gruesse, Dora

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(Fwd) Volunteering Help/Assistance
by W. Fred Rump 06 Jan '98

06 Jan '98

------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 13:01:36 -0800 From: "Lowell M. Schake" <lschake(a)caller.infi.net> Organization: InfiNet To: webmaster(a)genealogy.net Subject: Volunteering Help/Assistance WebMaster First, thanks you for listing my Schakes of La Charette with Missouri Germans. Secondly, I am willing to help with development of this site in any manner possible. One idea, in the Schakes of La Charette there are something well over 100 references cited - mostly related to German genealogy and related history. Would it be useful to post these independantly to provide greater accessibility? I would be glad to compile the list if desired. Second idea, as a retired university professor I have the time and am willing to take on any closely related assignment related to my interest. Do you have some specific ideas that you think should be considered/developed? Be glad to discuss various options with you. Lowell M. Schake Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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bin wieder da - ein gutes Neues! Dora
by D. Selig 05 Jan '98

05 Jan '98

Liebe Webpage-ler, ich musste am 19.12. ploetzlich wegfahren (Krankheit in der Familie) und so bin ich nicht dazu gekommen, euch allen ein GUTES NEUES JAHR 1998 zu wuenschen - was ich hiermit nachholen moechte. Die inzwischen angekommenen Emails werden moeglichst bald abgearbeitet. Herzliche Gruesse, Dora

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Upload
by Holger Zierdt 05 Jan '98

05 Jan '98

Hallo und Frohes Neues Jahr an alle, soeben habe ich einige neue bzw. geaenderte Hessen-Seiten upgeloadet: http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/hessen.html http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/heskbv.html ersetzen gleichnamige files in reg/HES/ http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/hesarchive.html ersetzt gleichnamiges file in reg/HES/hesarchive/ http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/heslit.html http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/heskb.html http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/heslit_AfGH.html ersetzen gleichnamige files in reg/HES/heslit/ und http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/heskb_da.html http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/heskb_gi.html http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/heskb_ks.html http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/hgb.html sind neue files fur reg/HES/heslit/ Bitte moven. Ich hoffe, alles ist fehlerfrei, ansonsten bitte mail an mich, Gruss, Holger Holger Zierdt Muenchhausenstrasse 38 37085 Goettingen fon: +49 (551) 484082 fax: +49 (551) 396153 hzierdt(a)med.uni-goettingen.de hzierdt(a)metronet.de

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(Fwd) Hahn: German genealogy
by W. Fred Rump 05 Jan '98

05 Jan '98

------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 16:52:56 -0400 From: "L. Setzer" <lhsetzer(a)twave.net> Reply-to: lhsetzer(a)twave.net To: fred(a)k2nesoft.com Subject: Hahn: German genealogy I have a web page on the Hahn family, shown below. However it is undergoing revisions at the moment. I hope to have it running by next weekend. I would be happy for you to index it. The page is based on Johannes Hahn born 1712 in Frechenfeld, Germany who came to America in 1751. Linda Hawn Setzer -- lhsetzer(a)twave.net Linda's Wisdom: Friends come and go but enemies accumulate. Researching Hahn/Hawn/Honn family: http://users.twave.net/lhsetzer/hahn.html Page me on the Net at http://www.mirabilis.com/5658772 Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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(Fwd) Civic Arms
by W. Fred Rump 04 Jan '98

04 Jan '98

------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 14:57:58 +0100 (MET) To: webmaster(a)genealogy.net From: Ralf Hartemink <hartemink(a)tip.nl> Subject: Civic Arms Hi, I have a large site with information on world-wide civic arms. This includes over 3000 German civic arms (not all are available yet, but I add information on request) and 2500 arms in other countries. I have much more info than that is available yet, but I am updating the site every month. Although my site is not directly related to genealogy, it may be very useful for your readers. Maybe you can add the site as a link on different country-related pages ? The site is at http://www.bng.nl/ngw/indexgb.htm Yours sincerely, Ralf Hartemink hartemink(a)tip.nl

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Update of the Lorraine page
by Robert Weinland 04 Jan '98

04 Jan '98

I have just sent the following updated page : for .../gene/reg/ELS-LOT/ : http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/lorraine.html Best regards and Happy New Year -- Robert Weinland - From Alsace to Lorraine... across Saar E-mail: <rweinl(a)hol.fr> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ICQ : 2635262 ~~ Web: <http://wwwperso.hol.fr/~rweinlan/>

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genealogical events page
by Richard Heli 03 Jan '98

03 Jan '98

Hi, With the change of year I have moved the 1997 events to a new page called http://www.genealogy.com/gene/ghlp/events_old.html If you have new events for 1998, please add them to http://www.genealogy.com/gene/ghlp/events.html Rick

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(Fwd) Info's nber das Erzgebirge / Geschichte
by W. Fred Rump 03 Jan '98

03 Jan '98

------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 22:00:01 +0100 Reply-to: richter(a)rba-net.com Organization: rba-Suedbaden To: webmaster(a)genealogy.net Subject: Info's über das Erzgebirge / Geschichte From: rba-suedbaden(a)t-online.de (rba-Suedbaden) Hallo ... Ausführliche Informationen, Bilder, Historisches etc. über das Erzgebirge finden Sie unter: http://www.rba-net.com/erzgebirge MfG U. Richter, rba-Südbaden Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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Upload
by GUnger＠t-online.de 31 Dec '97

31 Dec '97

Hallo, ich habe gerade die Datei bb-d.html noch einmal auf dem Server abgelegt. War noch ein kleiner Fehler drin. Sie gehört in reg/BRG Guten Rutsch in 1998 an alle von Euch und für 1998 alles Gute, vor allem Gesundheit. von Günther aus Emmerich

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Re: AW: uploading of SwissGen pages by other people
by Richard Heli 31 Dec '97

31 Dec '97

My impression is that Dora must be on vacation -- suggest we wait until she returns and hear her opinion as well? Rick At 04:30 PM 12/31/97 +0100, you wrote: >Dear Rick, > >it's not going to be all that many pages to start with : right now there >are Tim Philipp (Graubuenden) and Willy Schwarz (Schaffhausen). Later a >separate directory for this might become useful - I assume it wouldn't >be too much work to set it up : so why not now already ? Who would have >to do this ? > >Announcement : OK - let's announce it to ch-gen-l; in this way I would >be informed as well, as at least for the time being I would like to have >some control - I would like to be the one announcing to webpages that a >new page is ready (again - for the time being only, to see how this >works out). > >Best regards to all - Wolf >-------------- >Wolf W. Seelentag, PhD, e-mail : wolf(a)swissmail.com >Klinik fuer Radio-Onkologie, Kantonsspital, >CH - 9007 St. Gallen, Switzerland >Tel : +41-71-4942233 Fax : +41-71-4942893 > >>---------- >>Von: Richard Heli[SMTP:heli@best.com] >>Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. Dezember 1997 19:58 >>An: webpages-l(a)genealogy.net >>Betreff: Re: uploading of SwissGen pages by other people >> >>Hi Wolf, >> >>Hmmm, if there are going to be a lot of new pages, I wonder if it would >>be worthwhile to create a separate directory for such uploads? Also, whether >>it would helpful to announce updates for review by the readers of ch-gen-l? >> >>Rick >> >>At 05:19 PM 12/28/97 +0100, you wrote: >>>Dear All, >>> >>SwissGen is not gowing as fast as I would like it - but it IS growing, >> ...... > >

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Re: "German Study Group"
by Richard Heli 31 Dec '97

31 Dec '97

Hi Wolf, Yes, someone alerted this list to the site some time ago, perhaps before you were on the list. The site was done by a class who were trying to learn how to research things on the WWW and how to create web pages in HTML. I talked to them a bit and invited some to take over pages on our site, but didn't get any takers. I'm not clear, now that the class is over, that anyone is going to be maintaining that site. Also, despite being an impressive collection of links, it is somewhat disorganized -- Cyndi Howell's site does better in this respect. Probably worth visiting though in case it has some links to sites that we don't know about. Rick At 04:04 PM 12/31/97 +0100, Seelentag Wolfhart KSSG_RO wrote: >The following link I've found on an IIGS page - even if you don't want >to link to it, it may be of interest : > >http://pegasus.adnc.com/~websites/lynnd/vudeu.html > > German Study Group > A study group project to aid German genealogy online research. > Contains links (with comments) for 1.General German Genealogy > Resources; 2.Maps, History, German Regions, Heraldry; 3.Databases > and Vital Records; 4.Tools: Phone Books, Translations, > Forms, Search Engines, Look-ups; 5.Immigration, Ships and >Naturalization; > 6.Other Internet Suggestions. Also at the site are lists > of books, words used in German genealogy, German/English Form > letters, and FAQ for most German lists. > >"German Genealogy Pages" are decribed as a "must" ! > >Best wishes for a happy and successful New Year - Wolf >-------------- >Wolf W. Seelentag, PhD, e-mail : wolf(a)swissmail.com >Klinik fuer Radio-Onkologie, Kantonsspital, >CH - 9007 St. Gallen, Switzerland >Tel : +41-71-4942233 Fax : +41-71-4942893 > > >

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AW: uploading of SwissGen pages by other people
by Seelentag Wolfhart KSSG_RO 31 Dec '97

31 Dec '97

Dear Rick, it's not going to be all that many pages to start with : right now there are Tim Philipp (Graubuenden) and Willy Schwarz (Schaffhausen). Later a separate directory for this might become useful - I assume it wouldn't be too much work to set it up : so why not now already ? Who would have to do this ? Announcement : OK - let's announce it to ch-gen-l; in this way I would be informed as well, as at least for the time being I would like to have some control - I would like to be the one announcing to webpages that a new page is ready (again - for the time being only, to see how this works out). Best regards to all - Wolf -------------- Wolf W. Seelentag, PhD, e-mail : wolf(a)swissmail.com Klinik fuer Radio-Onkologie, Kantonsspital, CH - 9007 St. Gallen, Switzerland Tel : +41-71-4942233 Fax : +41-71-4942893 >---------- >Von: Richard Heli[SMTP:heli@best.com] >Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. Dezember 1997 19:58 >An: webpages-l(a)genealogy.net >Betreff: Re: uploading of SwissGen pages by other people > >Hi Wolf, > >Hmmm, if there are going to be a lot of new pages, I wonder if it would >be worthwhile to create a separate directory for such uploads? Also, whether >it would helpful to announce updates for review by the readers of ch-gen-l? > >Rick > >At 05:19 PM 12/28/97 +0100, you wrote: >>Dear All, >> >SwissGen is not gowing as fast as I would like it - but it IS growing, > ......

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"German Study Group"
by Seelentag Wolfhart KSSG_RO 31 Dec '97

31 Dec '97

The following link I've found on an IIGS page - even if you don't want to link to it, it may be of interest : http://pegasus.adnc.com/~websites/lynnd/vudeu.html German Study Group A study group project to aid German genealogy online research. Contains links (with comments) for 1.General German Genealogy Resources; 2.Maps, History, German Regions, Heraldry; 3.Databases and Vital Records; 4.Tools: Phone Books, Translations, Forms, Search Engines, Look-ups; 5.Immigration, Ships and Naturalization; 6.Other Internet Suggestions. Also at the site are lists of books, words used in German genealogy, German/English Form letters, and FAQ for most German lists. "German Genealogy Pages" are decribed as a "must" ! Best wishes for a happy and successful New Year - Wolf -------------- Wolf W. Seelentag, PhD, e-mail : wolf(a)swissmail.com Klinik fuer Radio-Onkologie, Kantonsspital, CH - 9007 St. Gallen, Switzerland Tel : +41-71-4942233 Fax : +41-71-4942893

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Re:
by W. Fred Rump 31 Dec '97

31 Dec '97

Also sprach Gene Wolf on 30 Dec 97 at 19:52 about : > I have quite a large genealogy compiled from my family, wolf family. > They migrated here from southern Russia. I am interested in all I > can find on my ancestors. I am more than willing to give any of the > genealogy I have to whoever would be interested in it. > Gene, ideally you build a web page on your data and then bring the URL to the attention of the webmaster(a)genealogy.net so that we can link this page to the appropriate place on the German genealogy pages. Fred Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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Schlesien - Haus des teschnener Buches
by Richard Heli 30 Dec '97

30 Dec '97

Appears to be a nice site if you can read Polish. >From: Ksiaznica Cieszynska <kcc(a)cieszyn.petex.bielsko.pl> >To: <heli(a)genealogy.com> >Subject: Schlesien - Haus des teschnener Buches >Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 15:01:47 +0100 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > >Ich lade zu http://www.ata.com.pl/kcc auf. > >Krzysztof Szelong<html><head></head><BODY bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p><font size=2 color="#000000" face="Arial Narrow CE">Ich lade zu http://www.ata.com.pl/kcc auf.<br><br>Krzysztof Szelong</p> ></font></body></html>

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3 ergaenzte Seiten
by Volker Milbrandt 30 Dec '97

30 Dec '97

Hallo, habe soeben die ergaenzten Seiten nach ftp.genealogy.com geladen: -rw-rw-r-- 1 ftp gene 10141 Dec 30 12:15 varia-gen.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 ftp gene 10539 Dec 30 12:15 varia-oaw.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 ftp gene 3471 Dec 30 12:15 varia.html Diese sind fuer http://www.genealogy.com/gene/reg/BAD-WUE/ als Ersatz der gleichnamigen Seiten bestimmt. Ein gutes neues Jahr 1998 wuensche ich noch allen! Volker

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new Swiss pages : Canton Schaffhausen
by Seelentag Wolfhart KSSG_RO 29 Dec '97

29 Dec '97

Dear All, I would like to introduce Willy Schwarz to you : he's taken over the pages for Canton Schaffhausen (for the time being submitted via me, however). for .../gene/reg/CH/kant/ : http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/shallg-d.htm http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/shallg-e.htm and the corresponding link pages - for .../gene/reg/CH/ : http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/news-m.htm http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/kanton-m.htm http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/kanton-t.htm Best regards to all - Wolf -------------- Wolf W. Seelentag, PhD, e-mail : wolf(a)swissmail.com Klinik fuer Radio-Onkologie, Kantonsspital, CH - 9007 St. Gallen, Switzerland Tel : +41-71-4942233 Fax : +41-71-4942893

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Upload
by GUnger＠t-online.de 29 Dec '97

29 Dec '97

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Re: uploading of SwissGen pages by other people
by Richard Heli 28 Dec '97

28 Dec '97

Hi Wolf, Hmmm, if there are going to be a lot of new pages, I wonder if it would be worthwhile to create a separate directory for such uploads? Also, whether it would helpful to announce updates for review by the readers of ch-gen-l? Rick At 05:19 PM 12/28/97 +0100, you wrote: >Dear All, > >SwissGen is not gowing as fast as I would like it - but it IS growing, >with now two people on the team writing HTML pages. So far they have >sent me their pages as e-mail attachements, and I have submitted them to >the system. I would now like to gradually change this procedure : have >them upload their upgrades directly, but not announce them to webpages - >just to me; I'll have a look at the new pages, check e.g. whether any >links on other pages would need to be looked after, possibly send other >revised pages, and then notify webpages to have the pages placed on >their proper position. > >Please, let me know if there are any objections to this procedure. > >Best regards and my very best wishes for the New Year to all of you - >Wolf >-------------- >Wolf W. Seelentag, PhD, e-mail : wolf(a)swissmail.com >Klinik fuer Radio-Onkologie, Kantonsspital, >CH - 9007 St. Gallen, Switzerland >Tel : +41-71-4942233 Fax : +41-71-4942893 > > >

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uploading of SwissGen pages by other people
by Seelentag Wolfhart KSSG_RO 28 Dec '97

28 Dec '97

Dear All, SwissGen is not gowing as fast as I would like it - but it IS growing, with now two people on the team writing HTML pages. So far they have sent me their pages as e-mail attachements, and I have submitted them to the system. I would now like to gradually change this procedure : have them upload their upgrades directly, but not announce them to webpages - just to me; I'll have a look at the new pages, check e.g. whether any links on other pages would need to be looked after, possibly send other revised pages, and then notify webpages to have the pages placed on their proper position. Please, let me know if there are any objections to this procedure. Best regards and my very best wishes for the New Year to all of you - Wolf -------------- Wolf W. Seelentag, PhD, e-mail : wolf(a)swissmail.com Klinik fuer Radio-Onkologie, Kantonsspital, CH - 9007 St. Gallen, Switzerland Tel : +41-71-4942233 Fax : +41-71-4942893

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Und noch eine aktuelle Datei
by GUnger＠t-online.de 27 Dec '97

27 Dec '97

Guten Tag, ich habe gerade noch eine Datei für gene/vereine/AMF auf dem Server abgelegt: /gene/tmp/up/pages a-2.html Gruesse Guenther

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(Fwd) How might Autumn Star assist
by W. Fred Rump 27 Dec '97

27 Dec '97

------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 12:13:15 +0000 From: Anita Meyer <ameyer(a)autumnstar.com> Reply-to: AutumnStar(a)aol.com Organization: Autumn Star URL= http://www.autumnstar.com To: WebMaster(a)genealogy.net Subject: How might Autumn Star assist Greetings, My name is Anita Meyer and I have the domain of AutumnStar.com Call it my little WEBoutique or my one-woman web symphony, whatever you like, it's here to stay - naturally, it started out with a simple homepage that expanded into genealogy [ http://www.autumnstar.com/Genealogy/Genealogy.html/ ] among other things and became it's own domain by suggestion of others... to make a long story short... my maternal ancestors hail from Bavaria and I have been working on that sub-site, too.... I think your site is attempting to accomplish something that people coming to my site would want to visit OR, perhaps, people finding your site would like to see mine... not sure which... but it would be nice to avoid duplication, enhance each other's efforts and support what we're doing... tell me what you think after visiting the site, getting a feel for it's identity, structure and links... my paternal genealogy links from Alsace-Lorraine are more extensive and may be worth while to visit... Sincerely yours, Anita Meyer ------------- I've responded to this but the link should probably be included in the private pages. FR Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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Upload
by GUnger＠t-online.de 26 Dec '97

26 Dec '97

Guten Tag, ich habe gerade folgende Dateien upgeloadet: /gene/tmp/up/pages/AMF.html /gene/tmp/up/pages/anl_b4-1.doc /gene/tmp/up/pages/b4-1.html /gene/tmp/up/pages/d3-2.html /gene/tmp/up/pages/fam.xls /gene/tmp/up/pages/karte_c3.gif Diese sind fuer /vereine/AMF/ /gene/tmp/up/pages/thu-d.html Dieses ist fuer /reg/THU/ Viele Gruesse Guenther Unger

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(Fwd) Re: Silesian Agricultural Estate Registry
by W. Fred Rump 26 Dec '97

26 Dec '97

Sort of a commercial. Anybody want to do something with it? Fred ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: deichsa(a)win.bright.net Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 07:20:43 -0600 To: fred(a)k2nesoft.com Subject: Re: Silesian Agricultural Estate Registry Hi Fred, we are sorry about being less than specific. This may be what we should have said: 1. Translated information from the "Guter-Adressbuch" is available. The fee for average entrees is $ 10.00 pre-paid. 2. We are Silesians and can still read the dialect. 3. RF German-English Translation Services >hhtp://win.bright.net/~deichsa/welcome.html < is the main office, and Schubert German Genealogy Translation Services > http://www.win.bright.net/~jakeschu/welcome.html is our branch. 4. For better efficiency and faster service we will from now on handle all the Silesian information at the main office. Finally, we would like to express our appreciation for the excellent work you are doing. With best wishes for the coming year, W. Schubert W. Fred Rump wrote: > Also sprach deichsa(a)win.bright.net on 25 Dec 97 at 6:52 about > Silesian Agricultural Estate Regist: > > > Hi, > > information from the very rare "Schlesisches Guteradressbuch," 1937 > > ed. is now available from: > > > > http://www.win.bright.net/~jakeschu/welcome.html > > > > They will also do translations of the Silesian dialect written in > > the Old German Script. Happy Holidays! > > > > The link above is nothing but an invitation to write to an email > address for genealogical services. It certainly says nothing about > any Güteradressbuch as the message above implies. > > Fred > > Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred > 26 Warren St > Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or > 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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Frohe Weihnachten
by Reinhold Herrmann 24 Dec '97

24 Dec '97

Ich wuensche euch allen und euren Familien ein recht beschauliches Weihnachtsfest und einen guten Rutsch ins neue Jahr Rainer -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhold F. Herrmann | Email: RH(a)eics.com | Es muss ein Ruck durch Herrmann & Wintz GBR | RH(a)genealogy.net | dieses Land gehen Genealogy Network | Tel: 49-2237-560031 | (Roman Herzog) --------------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Frohe Weihnachten und alles Gute fuer 1998
by Holger Zierdt 23 Dec '97

23 Dec '97

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Frohe Weihnachten und alles Gute fuer 1998
by GUnger＠t-online.de 23 Dec '97

23 Dec '97

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E-Mail-Adressen des Schweizerischen Bundesrates
by Richard Heli 23 Dec '97

23 Dec '97

>Reply-To: <ernst.troendle(a)t-online.de> >To: <webmasterch(a)genealogy.net> >Subject: E-Mail-Adressen des Schweizerischen Bundesrates >Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 03:21:30 +0100 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 >X-Sender: 0746291285-0001(a)t-online.de >From: Ernst.Troendle(a)t-online.de > >Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren! > >Können Sie mir die E-Mail-Adressen der einzelnen Bundesräte und des >Bundespräsidenten mitteilen? >Evtl. auch Fax-Nummern. > >Mit freundlichen Grüssen >aus Immendingen-Hattingen >an der (oberen) Donauversickerung: > Ernst Tröndle >Auslandschweizer ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> ><HTML> ><HEAD> > ><META content=text/html;charset=iso-8859-1 http-equiv=Content-Type><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> ><META content='"MSHTML 4.71.1712.3"' name=GENERATOR> ></HEAD> ><BODY bgColor=#ffffff> ><DIV> ><DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren!</FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV> ><DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Können Sie mir die E-Mail-Adressen der >einzelnen Bundesräte und des Bundespräsidenten mitteilen?</FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2><FONT color=#000000>Evtl.</FONT> auch >Fax-Nummern.</FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV> ><DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Mit freundlichen Grüssen<BR>aus >Immendingen-Hattingen <BR>an der (oberen) >Donauversickerung:<BR>        &nbsp ;            &nb sp;            & nbsp;             >Ernst Tröndle Auslandschweizer</FONT> </DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML> >

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(Fwd) Re: German links in Australia
by W. Fred Rump 22 Dec '97

22 Dec '97

------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Reply-to: <phoenixcs(a)s054.aone.net.au> From: "Carolina Peters" <phoenixcs(a)s054.aone.net.au> To: <fred(a)k2nesoft.com> Subject: Re: German links in Australia Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 08:17:31 +1100 Greetings, My name is Carolina Peters (nee Anwandter). I was born in Chile - the fifth generation to be born there after Karl Anwandter emigrated from Germany in the early 1800s. Our family migrated to Australia in 1970 thereby expanding the Anwandter clan into Australia. I have historical information about the family in Chile, however, we are just starting in Australia, so I am not sure how much help I can be to you. My work telephone number is (02) 9816-1666 if you are interested. Many regards and Merry Christmas, Carolina. Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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(Fwd) What is this?
by W. Fred Rump 22 Dec '97

22 Dec '97

------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: Gary Ramthun <garyr(a)chisp.net> To: "'webmaster(a)genealogy.net'" <webmaster(a)genealogy.net> Subject: What is this? Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 12:00:02 -0700 When I am on the homepage >www.genealogy.com/gene/ It says "Welcome to the ...." When I click on the "Scottsdale, AZ, USA" I am linked to >www.qrz.com/ This is a page of Ham radio Call signs. This is confusing to me, and I've been doing this for a few years. If this is some special interest of one of the Webmasters, it may be of interest to him, but to a new guy interested in German Genealogy, it is pretty confusing. Thanks for all the work of putting so much information in one site. I just did a presentation to The Colorado Chapter of the Palatines to America, about on-line resources for German research. I could find very little that wasn't already on your pages. Good work. Gary Ramthun Aurora, CO Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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(Fwd) Private Familienseiten
by W. Fred Rump 22 Dec '97

22 Dec '97

------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 13:28:42 +0100 From: Günter Hansen <Guenter.Hansen(a)toppoint.de> Organization: Toppoint Mailbox e.V. To: webmaster(a)genealogy.net Cc: Guenter.Hansen(a)mail.in-kiel.de Subject: Private Familienseiten Hi, unter der Webadresse http://www.toppoint.de/~guenter/ habe ich heute Familien aus Sachsen-Anhalt, Niedersachsen, Schleswig-Holstein, Bayern, Baden-Wuerttemberg und Thueringen veroeffentlicht. Guenter.Hansen(a)mail.in-kiel.de Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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Provisional Update of Emigration Sources Page
by Michael Palmer 21 Dec '97

21 Dec '97

I have uploaded an updated version of my Emigration Sources bibliography to the /gene/temp/up/pages as "emigrati.neu" (the files "emigrati.htm" and "emigrati.new" are incomplete, aborted transfer attempts). The only major change is in the descrption of the Liverpool and London ship lists. I am calling this update "provisional" because there are many other additions/ corrections I want to make, but Debbie Beavis has been sending me irate messages about how the information I have posted on the British records is "all wrong", and I need to get her off my back as soon as possible. Naturally, if any of you knows of any glaring errors that I need to correct or of any additional sources I should list (bearing in mind that I am concerned here with emigration records only on the state or--in the case of Bavaria and Prussia--on the provincial level), please do let me know. I am investigating the current rumor about passenger records for Le Havre for 1780-1840 being available through the Groupement Genealogique du Havre et de Seine-Maritime, but I suspect this is the card file to which I already refer. I have also ordered Uwe Reich's new book _Aus Cottbus und Arnswalde in die Neue Welt_; it is, however, only 278 pages long, so I strongly suspect that it does *not* include any lists of emigrants. Does anyone know anything about the Institut f"ur Auswandererforschung that is/was at Warnem"unde? I am planning in January to split the Emigration Sources page into 2 separate sections: (1) emigration/immigration records other than ship passenger lists, and (2) ship passenger lists and sources for the history of the sailing vessels and steamships, both German and foreign, that carried German emigrants to North and South America, Australia, and South Africa. Michael -- Michael Palmer Claremont, California mpalmer(a)netcom.com

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(Fwd) Africana Library, Kimberley, South Africa
by W. Fred Rump 20 Dec '97

20 Dec '97

------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Reply-to: <afrilib(a)global.co.za> From: "Africana Library" <afrilib(a)global.co.za> To: <fred(a)k2nesoft.com> Subject: Africana Library, Kimberley, South Africa Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 13:44:40 +0200 Dear Fred Did you know of the existence of the Africana Library in Kimberley. We specialize in history depicting the early diamond fields from 1870. As there were German diggers as well, we offer our services for family research at a nominal fee of R50 plus photocopies and postage, depending on the amount of material found. Our newspapers go back to 1870 and our collection house 13 000 Africana books, pamphlets, 11 000 photographs. The history of the German Lutheran Church in Kimberley, German missionary at Pniel and several others. Our postal address is: Africana Library PO Box 627 8300 Kimberley South Africa Telephone no: (0531) 806247 Yours sincerely Mrs C Duminy Africana Librarian Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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HTML
by W. Fred Rump 19 Dec '97

19 Dec '97

HTML 4.0 Becomes A Standard The World Wide Web Consortium yesterday put its final stamp of approval on HTML 4.0, the next-generation of the Web's core markup language. The move to so-called Recommendation status means that all 200-plus members of the W3C have approved the HyperText Markup Language 4.0 spec, along with a final thumbs-up from W3C director Tim Berners-Lee. The spec moves standard HTML forward from its current HTML 3.2 level, the group's last "freezing" of the HTML standard. HTML 3.2 essentially collected and standardized the most popular Netscape and Microsoft extensions that were in use at that time. The W3C's Berners-Lee encouraged Web users and builders to insist on HTML 4.0 compliance in order to ensure a vendor- independent Web. "There really is no excuse for tying yourselves or your partners to proprietary solutions," he said in a statement. The first public working draft of HTML 4.0 was published in July. The final standard includes improvements to forms, tables and frames, as well as increased support for Web objects, scripting and style sheets. The spec also includes improvements to make Web pages more accessible for users with disabilities, for instance, allowing table and form text to be rendered into Braille or speech. In related news, the W3C unveiled the W3C HTML Validation Service at http://validator.w3.org/. Web developers can use the service to validate their Web pages against the HTML 4.0 standard. FR Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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Frohe Weinachten! Merry Christmas!
by Veit Olschinski 18 Dec '97

18 Dec '97

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comment on Germans to America page
by Richard Heli 18 Dec '97

18 Dec '97

Perhaps someone, Jim?, wishes to reply? >From: " KOBUK; imo" <acone(a)cmc.net> >To: <webmaster(a)genealogy.net> >Subject: Germans to America >Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 19:04:02 -0800 >X-MSMail-Priority: High > >The Germans to America, the 50 volumn set I am refering to. > >Santa Rosa, California, Sonoma county library only contains Vol 1 & 2. >That is it. Just those two volumns. > >Someone should upgrade this list to indicate which volumnes each library >have. I assumed Santa Rosa library contained all 50 volumns. When I got >there I found only TWO. > >http://w3g.med.uni-giessen.de/gene/www/emig/gta-holdings.html > >Thought I would let you know so these two volumns could be listed in the >above list. > >Scotty > >

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updated page
by Seelentag Wolfhart KSSG_RO 17 Dec '97

17 Dec '97

I have just updated (fixed a few broken links) the following page for .../gene/reg/CH/ : http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/contac-e.htm Best regards - Wolf -------------- Wolf W. Seelentag, PhD, e-mail : wolf(a)swissmail.com Klinik fuer Radio-Onkologie, Kantonsspital, CH - 9007 St. Gallen, Switzerland Tel : +41-71-4942233 Fax : +41-71-4942893

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updated WWW-Pages in USA
by Rudolf Schmid 17 Dec '97

17 Dec '97

Hi Dora, habe eben erfolgreich zwei Files, BLF-d.html und BLF-GENTAG.html nach USA tranferiert und bitte um entsprechenden Austausch. Herzlichen Gruss aus Muenchen bei 3 cm Schneehoehe und -5 Grad ! Rudi host: qrz.com dir /full "gene/gene/tmp/up/pages" ... -rw-rw-r-- 1 ftp gene 5692 Dec 17 11:16 BLF-GENTAG.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 ftp gene 16654 Dec 17 11:19 BLF-d.html ...

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(Fwd) German who migrated to Russian
by W. Fred Rump 16 Dec '97

16 Dec '97

------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: RemMick <RemMick(a)aol.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 15:17:23 EST To: fred(a)k2nesoft.com Subject: German who migrated to Russian Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Web Site for Borodino / Bessarabia, a German colony founded in Russia 1814 at: http://members.aol.com/RemMick/HubertHomeSite.index.html/ Also includes ancestoral villages of: (1) Huberts who were Catholics who migratesds to Temesvar, Rumania from Trier & Saarland in the 1700s (2) Remmicks who were Lutheran who migrateds to Worms/ Odessa. S. Russia from Edenkoben, Landau, Palatinate....1809 (3) Hein family migr. to Kulm, Prussia [Poland] then Borodino/Bess. founded in 1814 Thanks. RemMick(a)aol.com Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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updated Swiss pages
by Seelentag Wolfhart KSSG_RO 15 Dec '97

15 Dec '97

Dear All, I have just loaded the following pages : for .../gene/reg/CH/ : http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/home-m.htm for .../gene/reg/CH/kant/ : http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/sgallg-d.htm http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/sgallg-e.htm for .../gene/reg/CH/ver/ : http://www.genealogy.com/gene/tmp/up/pages/htinfo-d.htm By accident I also loaded HTINFO-D.HTM (capital letters) - this is identical and should be deleted. Thank you. I wish you all a MERRY CHRISTMAS AND ALL THE BEST FOR THE NEW YEAR ! Wolf -------------- Wolf W. Seelentag, PhD, e-mail : wolf(a)swissmail.com Klinik fuer Radio-Onkologie, Kantonsspital, CH - 9007 St. Gallen, Switzerland Tel : +41-71-4942233 Fax : +41-71-4942893

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http://www.bellnet.com/suchen/hobby/genealog.htm
by Richard Heli 15 Dec '97

15 Dec '97

Hi, Not sure if this site has been mentioned here before: http://www.bellnet.com/suchen/hobby/genealog.htm It is basically a page of links & there are several of the inevitable private family pages, but in addition there are some links which some of you may have seen, but I have not such as on Sudetenland, East Prussia archive index, etc. Sorry if this is old news, but thought it might be worth mentioning. They do link to the top of our regional pages. Rick

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Re: quick comment
by Jim Eggert 14 Dec '97

14 Dec '97

Rick wrote: > Just a quick comment on the > Adressb=FCcher/Address books not/nicht in Ribbe and Henning page. > > Perhaps the title > > Taschenbuch f=FCr Familiengeschichtsforschung, =20 > > should be in <cite>italics</cite>? Ok, I've done it. The new version has been uploaded to gene/tmp/up/pages/adressbuecher.html -- =Jim Eggert EggertJ(a)LL.mit.edu

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(Fwd) (Fwd)
by W. Fred Rump 13 Dec '97

13 Dec '97

------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 12:17:35 -0600 From: Charles Mies <cmies(a)nvsn.com> To: fred(a)k2nesoft.com If you would like to add our Mies family URL to your list please feel free to do so. www.mies.com Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com

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