Oh, I agree. They are not masters of public relations -- but they are a very important source of reference -- so I just wanted to avoid aggravating the situation. Rgds, -- Charles Wardell A-2073 Schrattenthal 3 Tel/Fax: +43 (2946) 8325 GSM: +43 (664) 307-58-15 email: charles@infrasoft.co.at (MSN: cwardell COMPUSERVE: wardell)