Hi, My 2nd round thoughts on this page include putting the page into a form of the Xland format. Since everyone using the site will be familiar or need to be familiar with Xland, why not, after all? Arthur, your Vereine are back in. Probably the most different part is the Introduction where I try to discuss the basic steps in starting genealogy. Fred, following your earlier thought, this might be good to tie in with the helpde-l team somehow. Your comments welcome. Rick